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Libyagate: Even if we have to destroy them to save them

“… Coming back from Tripoli, after visiting with some of the 70 thousand families which fled the NATO mercenaries and were placed in the homes of foreign workers who fled after the closure of their businesses. I met one Nasser Ali Sajer Attagag, 29, from Misurata, captured March 18th from the loyalist forces of the “Armed Peoples”.
They are like ‘Dead Man Walking’. I’m still sick to my stomach remembering his butchered face and his horror stories: Libyan soldiers had their throats slit, sliced, hanging in front of the courthouse, locked in a meat freezer, pro-Gaddafi families crushed to death, their daughters kidnapped, handed over to the “revolutionary youth”, raped – their breasts cut - bled to death during the “party of the revolution”. You will listen to everything and hear their stories in the next documentary: “Damned Arab Spring – revolutions, wars and counter-wars …NATO in the Arab world … ” /continues (Original in ES here)

From April, an interview with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former assistant secretary of US Treasury
US To Recoup Libya Oil From China
Whether or not Libya functions under “revolutionaries” depends if the CIA wins – we don’t know that yet. As you said earlier, the UN resolution puts constraints on what the European and American forces can achieve in Libya. They can have a no fly zone, but they are not supposed to be in there fighting together with the rebels. But of course the CIA is. So we do have these violations of the UN resolution. If NATO, which is now the cover for the “world community,” succeeds in overthrowing Qaddafi, the next target will be Syria. Syria has already been demonized.
Why are they targeting Syria? – Because the Russians have a very large naval base in Syria. And it gives the Russian navy a presence in the Mediterranean; the US and NATO do not want that. If there is success in overthrowing Qaddafi, Syria is next.
Already, they are blaming Iran for Syria and Libya. Iran is a major target because it is an independent state that is not a puppet of the Western colonialists. /continues

Egypt’s “second revolution”
Demonstrations last Friday in Egypt were among the largest since the revolutionary movement of workers and youth forced out the longtime dictator Hosni Mubarak on February 11. Hundreds of thousands gathered in the capital of Cairo and other cities to denounce the policies of the military government established after Mubarak’s downfall.
Among the slogans raised by the protesters was the call for a “second revolution.” Contained in this phrase is a critical understanding, namely that the fall of Mubarak three-and-a-half months ago has not solved the basic democratic and social aspirations of the mass protests.
On democratic rights, the military regime has kept in place the emergency laws, the abolition of which was a central demand of the revolution. In March, the military implemented a new law banning strikes or demonstrations that affect the economy. The military maintains a stranglehold on discussions over constitutional changes and will closely control any elections, if they are ever held.
Already, the military has brutally attacked youth demonstrators in Tahrir Square. Its methods of repression, however, are aimed at all sections of the working class, which was the basic social force that drove the Egyptian revolution. The strikes that erupted in the days leading up to February 11 continued and expanded afterwards, as workers sought to realize their demands for greater equality, improved wages, the reversal of privatizations and the democratic right to resist the dictates of the corporations. Recent weeks have seen an expansion of struggles, including factory workers and doctors.
In addition to repression from the state, the Egyptian working class now faces a deepening economic crisis. Unemployment has jumped to nearly 12 percent. The Egyptian ruling class will use mass joblessness to beat back demands for improved wages and conditions.
On foreign policy, the new government has maintained the cornerstone of the Egyptian state for decades: its alliance with the United States.

Karzai warns NATO against airstrikes
"NATO must learn that air strikes on Afghan homes are not allowed and that Afghan people have no tolerance for that anymore," Karzai told a news conference in Kabul on Tuesday, a Reuters report said.
The fresh warning comes immediately after an announcement by the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) that the western alliance is not going to stop night-time airstrikes in Afghanistan.
NATO claims that dozens of militant are killed and detained each month in its night-time raids.
This is while, according to local and international sources, many civilians lose their lives during such nightly NATO airstrikes.
[...] On Saturday, at least 14 civilians, including five girls, seven boys and two women were killed during one of NATO's night raids in the southern Afghan province of Helmand.
The US invaded Afghanistan with the official objective of curbing militancy and bringing peace and stability to the region. However, after nine years, the region remains unstable and militancy has now expanded towards Pakistan.

The Corbett Report– The Last Word on Osama Vid

Susan and Cindy chat about Libya (creating another Taliban), Iraq, 9/11, Laden the newer, Lockerbie
Save this link or click to listen in a web page. SoapboxInternet05222011.mp3
Cindy Sheehan's audio archives here (incl. Cynthia McKinney, if I was PotUS) and homepage here.
Recent Susan Lindauer aticles
The Patriot Act: When Truth Becomes Treason
Why did advance warnings about 9/11 and the Iraqi Peace option never come out in the public debate? Blame the Patriot Act, a perfect weapon to attack whistleblowers, dissidents and dissent. It's worse than you might imagine says Susan Lindauer, the second non-Arab American indicted under the Act, who sat in the defendant's chair. Lindauer explains what it means when Constitutional protections are stripped from the Courts.

Time for Truth: Osama's Death Won't End War on Terror Until Americans Understand the Threat Was Always Us
Former US Asset, Susan Lindauer describes her first-hand knowledge of the 9/11 Conspiracy from April & May 2001, and so demolishes the lies of the 9/11 Commission. She argues Americans must puncture the War on Terrorism, and sweep away the phony threat that's got all of Washington plotting Wars in the Middle East, bankrupting our economy with runaway defense spending,

Oil War: Putting Out Fire with Gasoline in Libya
War doesn't work, does it? Best case scenario, NATO's war against Libya will run 18 to 24 months unless decisive action is taken right now--this day--to end the military confrontation. It doesn't have to go that way. Think Peace.

Whistleblower: Libya "Vampire War" is About Oil, Lockerbie and CIA Heroin Op
Democracy has nothing to do with the War in Libya. The U.S. and Britain are covering up a decades old scandal tied to the Lockerbie bombing and CIA involvement in heroin trafficking in Lebanon. Wily Gadhaffi made a play to challenge the powers of Big Oil, now Libya's paying the ultimate price.

Former Asset, Susan Lindauer explains the CIA's involvement in heroin trafficking in Lebanon during the 1980s hostage crisis, and how efforts to block a federal investigation resulted in the bombing of Pan Am 103, otherwise known as the Lockerbie bombing.

Dear Fellow Worldlings,
We are writing this in a newspaper because most of our citizens, when they hear us on television, either laugh uproariously or throw the nearest available object through the TV screen. But newspaper reporters are trusted by the public almost half as much as used-car salesmen, and we are hoping that some of this credibility will rub off on us if we write here.
Since the beginning of the Libyan crisis (in 1969), we have had our small differences about who should pay the costs and who should reap the benefits of sorting the place out, but we have been united in our belief that we know what is best for us, and what is best for us is best for Libya. We are convinced that better times lie ahead for the people of Libya, and a pathway can be forged to achieve that, even if we might have to destroy them in order to save them.
We must never forget the reasons why the international community —that’s us —was obliged to act in the first place. The Arab world was descending into chaos: Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen, Saudi Arabia —and we couldn’t find a pretext to send in the Marines, or even a few thousand drone bombers, to save our favourite employees.
Then Colonel Gaddafi began attacking his own people instead of renditioning them to other countries for torture. How does that look? Is Egypt, where the military is still in charge, that far away? Think of how such isolationism undermines international collaboration and the WTO. We had to act now, because we weren’t likely to get another such opportunity.
In a hysteric resolution, matched only by the one giving us carte blanche to level Korea in 1950, the United Nations Security Council authorised all necessary measures to protect the people of Libya from everything except unlimited collateral damage, the theft of their resources and our possible decision to look the other way should we decide to leave Gaddafi in charge for a while (see Iraq 1991).
Our duty and our mandate under UN Security Council Resolution 1973 is to protect civilians, not to remove Qaddafi by force. But what the hell, does anyone think we’re going to spend all that money on explosives just to save a few towel heads? If you think we’ve exceeded our mandate, file a complaint with the Security Council.
Furthermore, the International Criminal Court is rightly investigating the crimes committed against civilians and the grievous violations of international law by Gaddafi. One of us is immune from such investigation, because my government has not signed on to the ICC, so it seems unquestionable that any further war crimes in Libya should be left to me.
There is a pathway to peace that promises new hope for the people of Libya — a future that preserves Libya’s integrity and sovereignty, and restores her economy and her people to the rightful control of the IMF and World Bank.
This vision for the future of Libya has the support of a broad coalition of countries, most of whom have asked to remain anonymous unless naming them can deflect attention from sex scandals. They support a solution to the crisis that respects the will of the Libyan people, which we are already well informed about, so the latter don’t need to raise their voices.
Britain, France and the United States will not rest until all United Nations Security Council resolutions that do not refer to Israel have been implemented and the Libyan people can choose the future we have chosen for them.

George III (United States)
What’s-his-name (Tony II, Britain)
Nicolas Sarcophagus (France)

(Also see here for other fine articles and vids - link)

Libyan war updates/Stop NATO news: May 31, 2011
Libyan War: Over 9,000 NATO Air Missions, Nearly 3,500 Strike Sorties
Rebels Reject Truce Offer, NATO Bombs Libyan Cities
Western Troops Seen On The Ground In Libya
Mediterranean: U.S. Leads Naval Exercises With NATO, North African Partners
NATO In Afghanistan “As Long As It Takes To Finish Job”: Rasmussen
Two Australian Soldiers Killed In Afghanistan
Occupying Force: Karzai Tells NATO To Halt Bombing Of Afghan Villages
NATO Helicopters Stage Raid Inside Pakistan
Youth Groups Oppose Expansion Of NATO Presence In Kyrgyzstan

May 30, 2011
May 29, 2011
May 28, 2011

“Boots on the Ground”: Sarkozy and Cameron Prepare to Land in Libya
The Aircraft Carrier George H.W. Bush is flanked by a battle group consisting of the guided missile destroyers Truxtun and Mitscher, the missile cruiser Gettysburg and Anzio and eight squadrons of aircraft. It’s going to strengthen the Sixth Fleet, whose command is in Naples, alongside other units, including the nuclear submarines Providence, Florida and Scranton. Also added to the Sixth Fleet was one of the most powerful amphibious strike groups, led by the USS Bataan, which alone can land more than 2,000 marines, equipped with helicopters and vertical takeoff planes, artillery and tanks. It is flanked by two other amphibious assault ships, the Mesa Verde and the Whidbey Island, which from May 13-18 visited Taranto in Italy. The Whidbey Island has four huge air cushion landing crafts that, within a radius of 300 miles, can deliver 200 men at a time very quickly to the coast of a country without the ship being visible from land. Everything is ready, then, for a “humanitarian” landing in Libya. The Europeans will have the honor of landing first, under the protective wings of the aircraft carrier Bush.

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