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Libyagate: NATO's demolition of Libya OBLgate: Iran has evidence?

Bin Laden dead before U.S. raid - Iranian Intelligence Minister
Iranian Intelligence Minister Heidar Moslehi said Tehran has evidence that al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had died of disease long before the United States' alleged raid on the terrorist, FARS Iranian news agency said.

Osama and the Ghosts of September 11: "Proof that Obama is Lying"

"During his 60 Minutes interview with CBS News last night, Barack Obama admitted that US intelligence was only 55/45 confident that Bin Laden was even in the compound raided last Sunday night, fearing that the occupant could actually have been a “prince from Dubai,” a skepticism shared by residents of Abbottabad, one of whom told the BBC that the man seen watching television in the tapes released by the White House Saturday was in fact his neighbor, not Bin Laden." Infowars link

Why was ObL's execution such a publicity frenzy?
British's top cop warns of terror attack
Wonder what they're cooking up now? Bio attack - bird flu bomb, maybe an eco-terror - CO2 bomb, how about lib dim with a bicycle pump threatening to blow himself up? Just give us the naked body scanners and cut past the BS.

[With the controversy over his death in 2001 (see earlier posts) surely a covert op was the order of the day?]

Misurata It is suspected that the hard core insurgents who refused to surrender with those that did include foreign jihadists and possibly AQIM and LIFG estimated to be around 400 total. NATO spent days bombing one area of Misurata maybe to provide them with an escape route. If suspicions are borne out, their capture by the army would be the finish of NATO's excursion into alleged (ha!) criminality in Libya.

"I have the duty to say that bombings are immoral acts, " says the Apostolic Vicar of Tripoli
I am surprised that statements were made on the fact that I should deal only with spiritual matters and that the bombings have been authorized by the UN. But this does not mean that the UN, NATO or the European Union have the moral authority to decide to bomb " says Archbishop Giovanni Innocenzo Martinelli, Apostolic Vicar of Tripoli to Fides. "I certainly do not want to interfere with the political activity of anyone, but I have a duty to declare that the bombings are immoral, " insists Bishop Martinelli."Let me stress - continues the Apostolic Vicar of Tripoli - that bombing is not an act dictated by social and moral conscience of the West or humanity in general. Bombing is always an immoral act. I respect the United Nations, I respect NATO, but I must also declare that war is immoral. If there are violations of human rights , I cannot use the same method to stop them. As a Christian I have to use peaceful methods, first of all dialogue."
"I remember that Pope John Paul II established diplomatic relations with Libya, while it was under embargo. This is to demonstrate that the method to solve the problems are not even embargoes and wars, but diplomatic dialogue, " concluded Bishop Martinelli, expressing full support regarding the comminication of the Episcopal Mixed Commission Mediterranean-Maghreb-Europe, on the war in Libya and on the issue of migrants (see Fides 05/05/2011). (L.M.) (Agenzia Fides 06/05/2011)

While the Dalai Lama didn't find Libya worth mentioning - Dalai Lama says bin Laden's killing understandable - (nothing to do with his being part of the NWO-CoR scheme behind much of the world's ills of course.)

NATO, Libya - to protect civilians and enforce a no fly zone. Cameron wouldn't lie to the public (cattle) and the UN - would he?

There is talk that Gaddafi is receiving medical attention, rumours suggest it is for his kidneys, possibly damaged in the NATO Tripoli bombing. I fear the cost of retribution in lives taken will be high if he dies. Another item to add to NATO's extensive crime breach of UN regs sheet.

The insurgents' airforce (NATO) latest.
Tripoli terror bombing. It is clear NATO is going far beyond its remit. Another assassination attempt (protecting civilians by bombing civilian areas)
With Help From NATO, Libyan Rebels Gain Ground NYT
QARYAT AZ ZURAYQ, Libya — Rebel fighters made significant gains Monday against forces loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi in both the western and eastern areas of the country, in the first faint signs that NATO airstrikes may be starting to strain the government forces.
In the besieged western city of Misurata hundreds of rebels broke through one of the front lines late on Sunday, and by Monday afternoon were consolidating their position on the ground a few miles to the city’s west.
[...] But more potential signs of loyalist weakness emerged in a battle near the eastern oil town of Brega, where rebel fighters killed more than 36 Qaddafi soldiers and destroyed more than 10 vehicles, according to a senior rebel military official, who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about military operations. Six rebel fighters died in the battle, the official said, adding that the rebel troops retreated east from Brega after the attack on orders from NATO, presumably in advance of airstrikes. /Interesting summary here drawn from this article and ALJ reports.

NATO bombs rock Tripoli, Libya rebels advance AFP
TRIPOLI — A NATO bombing blitz rocked Tripoli Tuesday while rebels in besieged Misrata said they are pushing back Moamer Kadhafi's forces and the UN warned Libya is being paralysed by widespread shortages.
Jets screamed in low over the Libyan capital in the early hours of the morning, carrying out an unusually heavy bombardment over roughly three hours, an AFP correspondent said.
Late Monday, witnesses reported two explosions in the capital as jets flew overhead, adding that smoke was rising from a site near the offices of Libyan television and state news agency JANA./Google hosted

Several sharp explosions ripped through the Libyan capital Tripoli overnight as renewed NATO air strikes targeted the residence of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, state television headquarters and the offices of the official news agency Jana.
On the front line, heavy fighting has been reported south of the oil port of Marsa el-Brega  and Ajdabiya, a rebel-held town about 150 kilometers south of Benghazi, the rebel headquarters in the east. VoR link

NATO planes pound Libyan government weapons depot Reuters
TRIPOLI (Reuters) - NATO planes pounded Libyan government weapons depots southeast of the town of Zintan on Monday, in a sign of widening conflict in the Western Mountains region as rebels battle to unseat Muammar Gaddafi.
"The air strikes occurred around 1100 (5 a.m. EDT). We saw big plumes of smoke and heard explosions," said a rebel spokesman in Zintan who gave his name as Abdulrahman. There was no immediate comment from NATO or from Tripoli. Two months into a conflict linked to this year's uprisings in other Arab countries, rebels hold Benghazi and towns in the east while the government is firmly in control of the capital and other major cities.
Tripoli says most Libyans support Gaddafi, the rebels are armed criminals and al Qaeda militants, and NATO's intervention is an act of colonial aggression by Western powers seeking to steal the country's oil.
The rebels face a government with superior firepower and resources but they achieved a financial breakthrough on Monday, selling oil worth $100 million paid for through a Qatari bank in U.S. dollars, a member of their oil and gas support group said.
[...] The military deadlock confronts allies including the United States, Britain and France with a choice over whether to exploit loopholes in the sanctions regime they engineered in February and March to help the rebels, analysts and U.N. diplomats said.
Another alternative would be to circumvent the sanctions secretly but both courses risk angering Russia and China who wield vetoes on the U.N. Security Council and are increasingly critical of NATO's operation to protect civilians in Libya.
"The problem for the West is that several key players on the council now feel that the authority they granted was abused and they're not inclined to help the West extricate itself," said David Bosco of American University in Washington. /readable

Libya ‘shoot and scoot’ tactics hinder Nato push Oman Trib
[...] Government forces have abandoned the city centre to the rebels, but are entrenched in the built-up outskirts, sometimes firing from the open and scuttling for cover between buildings.
“There are houses there. It’s not as densely populated as downtown Misrata but still it’s the city,” said Nato’s senior military officer, Admiral Giampaolo di Paula.
“So therefore they are still continuing to use the tactics of shoot and scoot and that’s why we need to continue to systematically degrade their military firepower,” he said.
On Saturday, pro-Gaddafi artillery strikes destroyed four fuel storage tanks in Misrata, insurgents said, leaving the city facing fuel shortages.
“Nato is working, but Gaddafi’s forces are also working,” said a second rebel spokesman in Misrata, named Abdelsalam.
“Nato has been more successful at destroying troops and military vehicles on the move than static forces,” he said.
[Destroying Libya's airforce and army, where is that in the mandate?]

Gaddafi steps up assault on rebels across Libya Ahram
Gaddafi heightens artillery attacks in Misrata, increasing deaths, while western forces train rebels and Italy promises to supply ‘self defence material’
Muammar Gaddafi's troops unleashed a salvo of Grad rockets on towns in Libya's western mountains, and destroyed key fuel supplies in Missrata, aggravating a desperate humanitarian crisis in the besieged city.
The rebels, meanwhile, said Italy will supply them with weapons which Rome hastened to explain comprised "self-defence material", while 40 advisers from Britain, France and Italy were reportedly turning untrained insurgents into a fighting force in Benghazi.

Mission Creep in Libya - by Stephen Lendman (Documented fairly well up to 21 April)

[In mid-April, Britain sent in military advisers. US intelligence operatives were already deployed: “This deployment is fully within the terms of UN SCR 1973, both in respect of civilian protection and its provision expressly ruling out a foreign occupation force on Libyan soil,” British Foreign Secretary William Hague said. “Our officers will not be involved in training or arming the opposition’s fighting forces.” here]

Edit: Removed emotive comment due to lack of evidence.

Al J
9 May 5:01am Two loud explosions were heard overnight in Tripoli as jets flew overhead, witnesses said. More details soon.
5:20pm Delegates from 25 local councils and tribes in west and south of Libya have met on Monday for the first time in a show of unity with rebels battling pro-Muammar Gaddafi forces in the country's east. Read our latest story on the Abu Dhabi meeting here.
6:27pm Signs of daily NATO strikes against pro-Gaddafi forces are everywhere in Ajdabiya but there is no change militarily and diplomatically. Much fear remains in the eastern city as well as a deepening sense of frustration.
8:01pm NATO warships bombed "military and civilian targets" in the rebel stronghold Misurata in western Libya and the neighbouring town of Zlitan, Libyan state television reported Monday, according to Reuters news agency.
9:36pm In a live interview with Al Jazeera, a Libyan rebel commander claims rebels have killed 57 pro-Gaddafi soldiers and destroyed 13 military vehicles during a major battle in Ajdabiya, a city in west Libya.
10:00pm Valerie Amos, the UN humanitarian chief, told the UN Security Council that all parties should pause fighting in Libya to allow food, medical supplies and other aid to be delivered to those in need.
Amos said sanctions against Libya are causing "immense human suffering" but did not go so far to call for a change in the sanctions imposed.
10 May 12:25am A Libyan opposition newspaper says rebels were leading an uprising in the suburbs of Tripoli after being supplied with light weapons by defecting security service officers.
The Libyan government denied the report. A Reuters reporter said he could hear no gunfire and was unable to verify the report, posted on the website of the opposition newspaper Brnieq.
1:02am Two explosions rocked Tripoli as jets flew overhead, witnesses said, with smoke rising from the site near the offices of Libyan television and state news agency JANA - AFP
2:26am Libyan officials took foreign journalists to see what they said was the result of a second NATO strike in just over a week on a government building housing the high commission for children.
The old colonial building, situated in Tripoli's Dahmani neighbourhood, was completely destroyed but there were no immediate reports of casualties.
2:43am Jets screamed in low over Tripoli early on Tuesday, carrying out a series of strikes in quick succession, after witnesses reported two others near state media offices a few hours before (AFP).
3:26am Delegates from 25 Libyan councils have declared their support for the Transitional National Council, Libya's opposition party.
The leaders who were elected under Muammar Gaddafi's rule have been meeting in the United Arab Emirates, marking the first time delegates from the western and southern regions including tribal figures have met to discuss Libya's future. Vid report
3:55am Jets carried out eight strikes in roughly three hours in an unusually heavy bombardment of Tripoli, which is usually hit by at most two or three strikes at a time.
Four explosions rocked the Libyan capital shortly after 2:00 am (0000 GMT) on Tuesday, shaking the windows of a hotel housing journalists.
They were quickly followed by two more blasts. Sirens and shouts could be heard in the distance following the air strikes, as sporadic shots from assault rifles and heavier weapons rang out and jets continued to overfly the city. Vid report

Reminder, NYT's  map of the "war" zone is here.

NATO's support for the insurgency is not about aiding islamification - is it?
Confirmed: Hero Story of Benghazi Suicide Bomber Allvoices
CNN reports that a man named Al Mendhi loaded his car with explosives and drove it into a military compound in Benghazi last week, causing government troops to flee and allowing resistance to gain control of the military base. The man's daughters were interviewed on CNN. They said they are devastated at the loss of their father, and miss him terribly, but are nonetheless extremely proud of him.
His best friend reports that he carried the brave man's remains out of the car, and said that "If I didn't see it with my own eyes, I would not believe it myself."
Mr. Mendhi, a 49 year old oil company worker, is being hailed as a hero, because it was his sacrifice that enabled the resistance to overtake the barracks and roust Gadaffi's army, ultimately regaining the city of Benghazi. He had filled cylinders with cooking gas, packed them into his car, where he sat and prayed for half an hour before driving the car at high speed into the compound.

Where are the aid ships for Tripoli? The NATO exercise is about selectively protecting citizens, supporting the insurgency, looking after those that support the insurgency and punishing those that don't. Clear breaches of the UN resolution.
Shortages choke Tripoli as sanctions take hold While al Qaeda in Libya feasts on EC fascist largesse?
Accepting that the correspondents in Libya were sent as a propaganda detail to support the coalition action to kill Gaddafi (the reason for supporting the al Qaeda backed insurgency) at what stage does one-sided reportage become aiding terrorists? At what stage does one-sided reporting become concealing crimes against humanity?  At what stage does one-sided reporting become unacceptable?

Perhaps somewhere a seat polishing bank clerk is keeping account, the foreign assets Libya has versus the cost of rebuilding. Perhaps when the damage is sufficient that there is no feasible way of Libya financing an African central bank that is owned by Africa rather than the cartel, the globalists’ bull mastiff attack dog, NATO will be called to heel and kenneled. perhaps the regime change mission will be ended perhaps without a second thought to the fate of the alleged globalists’ “useful fools” on the ground other than perhaps hand waving on TV to impress the respective electorates. Perhaps insurgents are called “expendable assets” or more politely for delicate political ears, “collateral damage”.

Perhaps scientists have discovered a metaphor for Libya and an explanation for politicians' two facedness.
In an experiment, the researchers deliberately told DISCERN to learn too much in order to simulate the effects of schizophrenia.
"It's an important mechanism to be able to ignore things," said one of the researchers, Uli Grasemann, a computer science graduate student.
"What we found is that if you crank up the learning rate in DISCERN high enough, it produces language abnormalities that suggest schizophrenia."
In humans, it's believed that this occurs when the brain is flooded with excess dopamine. /orig article

Related side issue
War Criminals Try to Evade Prosecution By Pretending Torture Was Vital to Getting Bin Laden
... When It Actually Delayed the Hunt for YEARS

Humour aside
Central bank leadership contender(?) 'high on bath salts' arrested in bra, panties, accused of stabbing goat

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