clothcap (clothcap) wrote,

Libyagate: Monday DT & Al Jazeera Libya live

Prison planet titled the following piece: Former CIA officer blows lid off libya fraud live on CNN
The American Dream - This Is What Happens When Establishment Control Of The Media Cracks For A Moment
Every once in a while, establishment control of the mainstream media cracks for a moment. In an effort to achieve higher ratings, mainstream news programs will invite guests on that promise to be "interesting", but then they will say something that is not part of the script and the entire system will go into a state of chaos for a moment. One example of this happened recently when two CNN "infobabes" interviewed former CIA officer Michael Scheuer about the situation on the ground in Libya. They asked Scheuer some questions regarding the role of the CIA in Libya, but the interview rapidly moved in some directions that the "infobabes" were not anticipating. Instead of sticking to the "Republican" or the "Democrat" script, Scheuer ripped both parties and he detailed many of the reasons why we should have never gone into Libya at all.
Vid -

RAF 'needs more cash' says Air Chief Marshall
The RAF needs "more investment" if it is to continue running the range of operations ministers demand, the head of the force said. /Indy here
[Cameron - uuuuuunlucky, we gave it all to the insurgents...]
Wars are continued as finance dictates. Libya did not have a national debt as it had not participated in the private central bank scam and has large reserves both of gold and currency apart from that "confiscated" or "frozen" by central bank owned countries.
Libya National Budget and Public Debt
revenues: $35.08 billion expenditures: $35.9 billion (2009 est.)
revenues: $56.35 billion expenditures: $29.12 billion (2008 est.)
Public debt: 6.5% of GDP (2009 est.)
4% of GDP (2008 est.)
3.6% of GDP (2008 est.)
Info from
The UK national debt is over £8 with 12 zeros if pension etc commitments are included. Cameron is shooting for the stars, attempting to equal the US debt.

Excerpts from live updates:
Al J April 4
GMT +2
12:02am In a bit of good news emerging out of Libya, Lotfi Al Masoudi, one of four Al Jazeera journalists detained by Libyan forces has been released.

12:05am As Libya's deputy foreign minister meets the Greek prime minister in Athens, the editor of the Greek magazine Odyssey tells Al Jazeera that Greece doesn't believe there is a military solution to the conflict in Libya.

12:09am Chad has called on coalition forces to protect its citizens in opposition-held areas, saying dozens had been accused and executed for allegedly being mercenaries paid by Gaddafi.
"Since the beginning of the Libyan crisis, Chadians in Libya, especially those in areas controlled by the transitional national council, have been singled out," a statement from Chad's government spokesman Kalzeubet Pahimi Deubet said.
"Dozens of Chadians have known this sad fate."
The statement said several Chadian nationals had been arrested, some were "paraded on television as mercenaries and sometimes executed" despite denials that Libya had recruited any mercenaries from its southern neighbour.

2:14am The United States has agreed to a NATO request to conduct air strikes on Libya through Monday, the Pentagon confirmed to Al Jazeera.
[Poor Obama, wham bam thank you ma'm just ain't going to plan as with the whole Libyan mess. As with his ratings in the US. If the puppeteers have cast him adrift, Obama may stay the course in Libya, guaranteeing his ouster come the elections, even impeachment is possible.]

5:59am The current official line from the US Defence Department on why it's not actually drawing down its forces from NATO operations yet:
"Due to poor weather conditions over the last few days in Libya, the United States has approved a request by NATO to extend the use of some U.S. strike aircraft. These aircraft will continue to conduct and support Alliance air-to-ground missions throughout this weekend."

9:23am Seif al-Islam and Saadi Gaddafi, two of the leader's sons, are floating a plan to end the conflict in Libya by removing their father from power, the New York Times has reported, citing "a diplomat" and a Libyan official.

10:19am [Deja vu] US warplanes will withdraw from Libyan airspace late today, the AP reports, citing a NATO official. America kept its jets in the area on Monday in response to a request from NATO.

11:39am Rebels and government troops are exchanging fire in Brega, and the opposition still appears unable to completely retake the strategic oil town for the fourth straight day of fighting.
A column of fighters moved to within one kilometre of the university on the western edge of town, the AFP news agency reported.
Al Jazeera's Sue Turton, reporting from 10 kilometres east of the city, said the rebels managed to advance west after retreating the previous day due to help from overnight coalition air strikes. They're also fearful of the ground on either side of the main coastal highway, which they say has been mined by Gaddafi's forces.
Human Rights Watch confirmed that the regime's troops have used anti-tank and anti-personnel mines.
[Is the HRW biased?]

12:06pm Italy appears to have become the third country to effectively recognise the opposition Transitional National Council as the legitimate representative of the Libyan people.
[AFAIK meaningless until the UN says it isn't. Until there is a decisive coalition - I mean insurgent victory, such is unlikely.]

1:52pm A separate aid shipoperated by Doctors Without Borders took 71 wounded Misurata residents from the city to the Tunisian port of Sfax on Sunday. The injured had bullet wounds and broken limbs; one man's face had been "completely disfigured" by burns, Reuters reported.

1:47pm The Ankara, the converted Turkish cruise ship that carried more than 250 refugees from Misurata to Benghazi, will reach Cesme, Turkey, on Tuesday night. Reuters reports that thousands of Misurata residents tried to board the ship when it docked.

1:55pm The Liberian-registered tanker Equator is due to arrive in Tobruk on today, where it will take on board the rebels' first shipment of crude oil for sail, the Platts news agency reports.

3:15pm Al Jazeera's Laurence Lee has just been speaking with Iman Bugaighis, a spokesperson for the Transition National Council, who says that the TNC believes that "more defections will occur", and that the matter of safe passage for Muammar Gaddafi is for him to take up with NATO, not with the opposition.
She said that the opposition has clearly laid down the preconditions for a ceasefire, including the pulling back of Gaddafi's forces and freedom of expression across the country.
She said the TNC refuses to negotiate with any member of Gaddafi's family.
Bughaighis also said that Gaddafi's decision to bomb oil fields was an "act of desperation" to "exert pressure on NATO", as well as to "deprive [the opposition] of any resources".

DT April 4
07.20 An interesting report from the New York Times that appears to show even Gaddafi's sons are turning against him. The paper says that Saif and Saadi el-Kadhafi are proposing a transition to a constitutional democracy that would include their father's removal from power. It is not clear whether Gaddafi himself has signed off on this proposal or whether they are working against him.
Opinion - At least two sons of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi are proposing a resolution to the Libyan conflict that would entail pushing their father aside to make way for a transition to a constitutional democracy under the direction of his son Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafi, a diplomat and a Libyan official briefed on the plan said Sunday.

07.27 Meanwhile Aislinn Laing reports on the deteriorating situation in Ivory Coast where two presidents are battling it out for power. Her report - France sends more troops as Ivory Coast worsens - details how civilians are now being caught up in the violence with most barricading themselves in their homes with dwindling power, water and food supplies as armed looters roam the city.

07.40 The US has agreed to Nato's request for a 48-hour extension of American participation in coalition airstrikes against targets in Libya. The US Defence Department said:
Quote - Due to poor weather conditions over the last few days in Libya, the United States has approved a request by NATO to extend the use of some U.S. strike aircraft. These aircraft will continue to conduct and support Alliance air-to-ground missions throughout this weekend.
[That will not be good for Obama's re-election prospects. He is already a week past his get out by date. ]

08.22 Al Arabiya news channel is reporting that 400 people have been wounded in police clashes in Yemen.
Opinion - Police using live rounds and tear gas wounded more than 400 protesters who tried to march to a presidential palace in Yemen's Red Sea city of Hudaida early on Monday, as reports said that President Barack Obama's administration has shifted position on President Ali Abdullah Saleh and now believes he should leave office.

09.07 Nato says the US military is pulling its warplanes from front-line missions today and shifting to a support role in the Libyan conflict. Britain, France and other Nato allies will now provide the fighter and attack jets to conduct intercept and ground attack missions. The hand-over is expected to take place late in the day, said a Nato official who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity.
Last week, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates told Congress the US will continue to provide assets that others don't have in sufficient numbers. These are expected to include AWACS air surveillance planes, electronic reconnaissance aircraft and aerial refueling tankers.

09.25 The opposition is renewing its offensive at Brega today with a column of Libyan rebel fighters pushing towards the key oil town after having beaten a scattered retreat when ambushed by Gaddafi's forces the previous day.
The fighters made it to within five miles of the outskirts of Brega without encountering any resistance from loyalist forces, an AFP correspondent reported.
[Gov't forces seem to have ambushing down to a fine art. Is this another?]

09.39 The Libyan rebels' Transitional National Council has rejected any transition under Gaddafi's sons after The New York Times reported that two of them had proposed that. Speaking in the rebel strongyhold of Benghazi spokesman Shamseddin Abdulmelah said:
Quote - This is completely rejected by the council. Gaddafi and his sons have to leave before any diplomatic negotiations can take place.

11.49 Al Jazeera television, citing unnamed witnesses, has reported that forces loyal to Gaddafi have bombarded Misla oil field in eastern Libya. Misla, operated by the eastern-based Arabian Gulf Oil Company (Agoco) which is under the control of rebels, lies in the desert about 400 km (250 miles) south of the rebel-held town of Ajdabiyah.
[Insurgents illegally selling oil likely provoked this, maybe too it is added leverage.]

12.30 The head of Italian oil group Eni (ENI.MI) Paolo Scaroni has visited Benghazi in the past two days to discuss eneregy cooperation with the rebel movement, Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini says.
Quote - The CEO of Italian company Eni visted Benghazi two days ago. He contacted the council. He had important meetings on restarting cooperation about energy with the council that has the responsibility and the possiblity to restart economic cooperation.
Meanwhile Libyan rebels will this week load the first tanker with crude since the uprising against leader Muammar Gaddafi fully suspended exports from the North African country, Platts news agency reports.
[Cynically I wonder what price the coalition's insurgency is selling the oil to its air force?]

13.00 An envoy for the Libyan opposition is also expected to go to Turkey. Turkey said it was seeking to broker a ceasefire in Libya and expected to hold discussions with an envoy from Muammar Gaddafi's government due in Ankara on Monday and a representative of the opposition.

14.14 Britain is not pursuing an exit strategy for Gaddafi, David Cameron's spokesman has confirmed. He said:
Quote - There have been lots of reports of envoys and of the regime reaching out in a number of ways. We have been very clear throughout about what the next step should be and that needs to be a genuine ceasefire and an end to violence.
[There is no exit strategy to pursue. Cameron will be drawing his bank and EU pension before this ends the way it is going.]

14.20 The bombardment of Misurata by Gaddafi forces continues. Government troops been shelling the rebel-held city since early this morning, a rebel spokesman said.

15.06 Nato chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen met with Turkish officials today as an envoy of Gaddafi arrived in Ankara for talks on a possible ceasefire in Libya. Rasmussen held talks behind closed doors with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan in a meeting attended also by Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and Defence Minister Vecdi Gonul.

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