clothcap (clothcap) wrote,

Is the war about control of currency and oil? Farage - Rompuy

Let me control the economy and I care not which puppet is on the throne. (Or something like that)

The facts revealed below virtually guarantee a divided Libya if the government doesn’t regain control. Once again a protest gets hijacked and escalated by external manipulators. Opportunism on the part of the cartel or is this what the coalition intervention is really about?

Wow That Was Fast! Libyan Rebels Have Already Established A New Central Bank Of Libya
The rebels in Libya are in the middle of a life or death civil war and Moammar Gadhafi is still in power and yet somehow the Libyan rebels have had enough time to establish a new Central Bank of Libya and form a new national oil company. Perhaps when this conflict is over those rebels can become time management consultants. They sure do get a lot done. What a skilled bunch of rebels – they can fight a war during the day and draw up a new central bank and a new national oil company at night without any outside help whatsoever. If only the rest of us were so versatile! But isn’t forming a central bank something that could be done after the civil war is over? According to Bloomberg, the Transitional National Council has “designated the Central Bank of Benghazi as a monetary authority competent in monetary policies in Libya and the appointment of a governor to the Central Bank of Libya, with a temporary headquarters in Benghazi.” Apparently someone felt that it was very important to get pesky matters such as control of the banks and control of the money supply out of the way even before a new government is formed.
Of course it is probably safe to assume that the new Central Bank of Libya will be 100% owned and 100% controlled by the newly liberated people of Libya, isn’t it?
Most people don’t realize that the previous Central Bank of Libya was 100% state owned. The following is an excerpt from Wikipedia’s article on the former Central Bank of Libya….
The Central Bank of Libya (CBL) is 100% state owned and represents the monetary authority in The Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya and enjoys the status of autonomous corporate body. The law establishing the CBL stipulates that the objectives of the central bank shall be to maintain monetary stability in Libya , and to promote the sustained growth of the economy in accordance with the general economic policy of the state.
Since the old Central Bank of Libya was state owned, it was essentially under the control of Moammar Gadhafi.
But now that Libya is going to be “free”, the new Central Bank of Libya will be run by Libyans and solely for the benefit of Libyans, right?
Of course it is probably safe to assume that will be the case with the new national oil company as well, isn’t it?
Over the past couple of years, Moammar Gadhafi had threatened to nationalize the oil industry in Libya and kick western oil companies out of the country, but now that Libya will be “free” the people of Libya will be able to work hand in hand with “big oil” and this will create a better Libya for everyone.
Of course oil had absolutely nothing to do with why the U.S. “inva—” (scratch that) “initiated a kinetic humanitarian liberty action” in Libya.
When Barack Obama looked straight into the camera and told the American people that the war in Libya is in the “strategic interest” of the United States, surely he was not referring to oil.
After all, war for oil was a “Bush thing”, right? The Democrats voted for Obama to end wars like this, right? Surely no prominent Democrats will publicly support this war in Libya, right?
Surely Barack Obama will end the bombing of Libya if the international community begins to object, right?
Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize. He wouldn’t deeply upset the other major powers on the globe and bring us closer to World War III, would he?
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has loudly denounced “coalition strikes on columns of Gaddafi’s forces” and he believes that the U.S. has badly violated the terms of the UN Security Council resolution….
We consider that intervention by the coalition in what is essentially an internal civil war is not sanctioned by the U.N. Security Council resolution.”
So to cool off rising tensions with the rest of the world, Obama is going to call off the air strikes, right?
Well, considering the fact that Obama has such vast foreign policy experience we should all be able to rest easy knowing that Obama will understand exactly what to do.
Meanwhile, the rebels seem to be getting the hang of international trade already.
They have even signed an oil deal with Qatar!
Rebel “spokesman” Ali Tarhouni has announced that oil exports to Qatar will begin in “less than a week“.
Who knew that the rag tag group of rebels in Libya were also masters of banking and international trade?
We sure do live in a strange world.
Tonight, Barack Obama told the American people the following….
Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different.”
So now we are going to police all of the atrocities in all of the other countries around the globe?
The last time I checked, the government was gunning down protesters in Syria.
Is it time to start warming up the Tomahawks?
Or do we reserve “humanitarian interventions” only for those nations that have a lot of oil?
In fact, atrocities are currently being committed all over Africa and in about a dozen different nations in the Middle East.
Should we institute a draft so that we will have enough young men and women to police the world with?
We all have to be ready to serve our country, right?
The world is becoming a smaller place every day, and you never know where U.S. “strategic interests” are going to be threatened next.
The rest of the world understands that we know best, right?
Of course the rest of the world can surely see our good intentions in Libya, can’t they?
Tensions with Russia, China and the rest of the Arab world are certainly going to subside after they all see how selfless our “humanitarian intervention” has been in Libya, don’t you think?
In all seriousness, we now live in a world where nothing is stable anymore. Wars and revolutions are breaking out all over the globe, unprecedented natural disasters are happening with alarming frequency and the global economy is on the verge of total collapse.
By interfering in Libya, we are just making things worse. Gadhafi is certainly a horrible dictator, but this was a fight for the Libyan people to sort out.
We promised the rest of the world that we were only going to be setting up a “no fly zone”. By violating the terms of the UN Security Council resolution, we have shown other nations that we cannot be trusted and by our actions we have increased tensions all over the globe.

I wonder if the bank cartel will lose their deposit?

Here’s the disappeared post:

Farage: Rompuy says it is about regime change


Accompanying text from Youtube:
The UN says it’s alarmed by the looming humanitarian crisis in Libya. Officials warn food supply lines have been disrupted and over three hundred thousand refugees have already fled the country. Nigel Farage, MEP and leader of the UK Independence Party, believes the whole military strategy in Libya has not been thought through.

One thing that Farage makes clear is that Rompuy says it is about regime change and that it requires Bilderberg controlled European Council  permission. As the EU part of the coalition intervention has proceeded to aid the insurgents and attack Gaddafi directly the EC must have sanctioned regime change against the UN resolution and charter. Did the EU parliament sanction such? I didn’t hear of any vote on it. Libya presented no threat to EU countries and was stemming the flow of immigrants while suppressing extremists.

Has a UK exit strategy been planned yet? Will the government abide by the UN time limit? How long is a piece of string is not an exit strategy nor are the gang-green burdened public gifted with Rothschild wealth even as a nation.
Is there any sign that coalition participants will now abide by the UN resolution?
Is NATO a defence or now an attack force? Can we see where the change was agreed in writing if in fact it has changed its purview?
It is obvious that without an air force government forces are more than a match for the insurgents even with coalition assistance.
It appears that government forces now use residential buildings. How is the coalition going to deal with that from the air, especially if such becomes prevalent?
Why is nothing done about unarmed protesters being killed across the M.E and Africa?
when can we have news about what Europe can expect as a result of attacking Libya? A wave of immigrants at the very least considering over 300,000 have left the scene. Will the government allow them in - how many - will the public even be consulted?
It appears the European Council sanctioned the war. The UK needs permission to act on UN resolutions? Please, do tell.
Without the imperatives of oil and control of Libyan currency would this war even have been on the radar?
This intervention has more secrecy, confusion and double entendre than a Sherlock mystery. Is that how the public should be treated?

It would be interesting to see Seif make good on his words about evidence of funding Sarkozy. I would have expected him to have released it by now if it exists.
Why did the alleged rape victim refuse a medical check?
Has Gaddafi buried all the gold at a secret location in the desert only he knows?

DT's Libya Live excerpts from
07.41 William Hague will be concerned by the latest opinion polls as he prepares to host the international summit on Libya's future in London today.
A ComRes survey for The Independent found that 47 per cent of British voters do not agree with the decision to commit British forces to action over Libya, compared with 43 per cent who are in favour.
Some 71 per cent of voters are concerned Britain could be "dragged into a prolonged conflict like the Iraq war", the poll found.
07.48 US military aeroplanes have been dropping leaflets as well as bombs as they try to stir up more opposition to Gaddafi among the Libyan people.
American officials said the latest batch of leaflets was dripped near Misrata on Sunday, while the US has also been flying a propaganda plane that broadcasts across AM, FM, HF, TV and military communications bands.
08.47 William Hague's claims that there is no evidence of civilian casualties from allied or rebel actions came a day after the Libyan authorities produced their most detailed evidence yet that innocent people had been injured from coalition strikes, Radio 4 has reported.
Libyan news sources yesterday reported that the dawn bombing of the city of Sabha had resulted in several civilian casualties, with a number of homes destroyed and children among the casualties.
Western leaders and journalists have repeatedly questioned the claims of Libyan authorities, but the latest account is more detailed than anything previously issued by the Gaddafi regime.
08.52 The Syrian government is to resign today, with a new cabinet to be appointed within 24 hours, the Agence France-Presse is reporting.
The move would bring to an end fifty years of "emergency rule" in the middle eastern country.
09.28 Here are some fuller comments from William Hague on the Today programme earlier:
Quote One of the things that we will launch at the conference today is the political process that will, of course, include that national council.
We are not in control of where [Gaddafi] might go. I am not going to choose Colonel Gaddafi's retirement home.
Of course I believe he should face the court...people who committed crimes, if the prosecutor has the information on them, should be before the International Criminal Court.
But of course where he goes, if goes, is up to him and the people of Libya to determine and we will not necessarily be in control of that.
Asked what would happen if the rebels started attacking civilians, Mr Hague said:
"I'm not going there, that is a very hypothetical situation...What we are doing is making very clear to the opposition that we do not expect them to attack the civilian population in any other town."
09.49 The Italian coastguard has claimed about 1,000 refugees from Libya and Tunisia arrived on the islands of Sicily and Lampedusa this morning, prompting tension among the local population.
Lampedusa, a small Italian island, has drawn about 20,000 immigrants in recent weeks, the AFP reported.
09.56 The US will soon send an envoy to Libya to meet with rebel leaders in Benghazi, in the hope of establishing better ties with the groups hoping to oust Col Gaddafi, a senior official has told the Associated Press.
10.23 The Telegraph's Nick Squires has sent the following report of US military activity from southern Italy:
US warships and aircraft have attacked Libyan coast guard vessels which were reportedly shelling the port of Misrata.
A Libyan Coast Guard boat and two smaller vessels were "engaged" by a US Navy P-3C Maritime Patrol aircraft, a US Air Force A-10 Thunderbolt attack aircraft and the guided-missile destroyer USS Barry, according to a statement from the US military.
The Libyan vessels were "firing indiscriminately" at merchant vessels in Misrata.
The maritime patrol aircraft fired Maverick missiles at the Coast Guard boat, forcing it to be beached.
The two smaller vessels were attacked by the Thunderbolt, using its 30mm gatling cannon.
One was destroyed and the other had to be abandoned by its crew.
The American aircraft and ship are in the Mediterranean as part of Joint Task Force Odyssey Dawn.
11.52 Rob Crilly, en route to Pakistan, has blogged some reflections on the Libyan conflict on his website:
Rob Crilly The rebels are going to have to evolve from a chaotic rabble, charging headlong at government forces before retreating as soon as they come under fire, into a more sophisticated fighting unit if they are to have any chance at all of taking Sirte – or even defend what they’ve got. They have after all been as far as Ras Lanuf before, until losing it all.
For the time being they are an army winning the war without ever having won a battle.
12.54 The New York Times has an interactive map tracking the flashpoints in Libya day-by-day since the conflict began.
16.57 The French ambassador appointed to the rebel stronghold of Benghazi has been named as Antoine Sivan, a 53-year-old Arabic-speaking diplomat, AFP news agency reports, quoting a senior official source. Mr Sivan has held several posts in the region including that of French ambassador to Qatar.
[I wonder, when the conflict returns to Benghazi whether he will decide the grass is greener on the other side of the Med.]
17.09 Al Jazeera English tweets:
Twitter Opposition driven from Bin Jawad, pro-Gaddafi forces pounding Ras Lanuf
17.30 More information on the explosions this afternoon in Tripoli from correspondents at AFP in the city. Two loud explosions rocked the Libyan capital close to the tightly-guarded residence of leader Gaddafi. The first struck around 1630 GMT, followed by a second some three minutes later. At around the same time, seven other explosions were reported in the suburb of Tajoura, site of several military camps and an almost-nightly target of the bombing raids. A resident said planes were seen dropping five bombs on a military target in the area. Nato-led coalition aircraft had been seen in the skies over the capital earlier in the afternoon.
18.24 Hillary Clinton has said that under the US interpretation of the UN resolution arming the rebels would be legal. She said that this had not been discussed however. Financing the Libyan transfer had been discussed she said, admitting that she was just "getting to know" who the rebels really are. She said:
Quote It is our interpretation that (UN Security Council resolution) 1973 amended or overrode the absolute prohibition on arms to anyone in Libya, so that there could be a legitimate transfer of arms if a country should choose to do that.
18.46 France is prepared to hold discussions with its allies over supplying military aid to Libyan rebels fighting Moamer Kadhafi's forces, French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe tells AFP. He said:
Quote I remind you it is not part of the U.N. resolution, which France sticks too, but we are ready to discuss it (arming) with our partners.
19.37 Hillary Clinton has told reporters that a UN special envoy will soon visit Tripoli to urge Col Gaddafi to implement a real ceasefire, and discuss with him the option of leaving the country. She said:
Quote I'm not sure that we know exactly when we will get to any change in attitude by Gaddafi and those around him.
19.39 A doctor in the western Libyan city of Misurata has told the AFP news agency that 142 people have been killed and 1,400 wounded there since 18 March. Earlier, rebels said tanks and troops loyal to Col Gaddafi moved through the streets of Libya's third largest city, firing shells.
20.07 A coalition of countries conducting air strikes against Col Gaddafi's forces launched 22 Tomahawk missiles in the last 24 hours, the Pentagon said Tuesday. Coalition countries also flew 115 strike sorties, the Pentagon said in a new tally of military activities over the last 24 hours.
20.46 Nato chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen has said that Libya's situation cannot be solved by military action alone.
Speaking after an international coalition pledged to continue military action against Gaddafi and agreed to set up a contact group to coordinate political efforts, Rasmussen urged all parties to seek a political solution as soon as possible. He said:
Quote But I do hope that we'll see a political solution to the problems in Libya as soon as possible. Clearly there's no military solution, solely, to the problems in Libya.
20.49 Libya's rebels are not the anti-Western militants Gaddafi says they are, but worsening turmoil and killings of civilians by the West would help al Qaeda get a foothold, according to a British think tank. Quilliam, a group that studies Islamists, said in a report that while Libya had jihadist groups, "they are nowhere near as powerful or as widespread as the Gaddafi regime has claimed". It commented:
Quote That said, the breakdown in Libyan government control over much of Libya, combined with the ongoing fighting in many parts of the country, clearly gives jihadists and extreme Islamists more scope than ever before to operate in Libya.
It also said the amount of weapons becoming available in Libya as a result of the war was a serious cause for concern.
21.04 Gaddafi has written an open letter to the international community calling for a halt to the "monstrous assault" on Libya and maintaining that that the rebels are supported by the al-Qaeda terrorist network. He said:
Quote What is happening now is providing a cover for al-Qaida through airstrikes and missiles to enable al-Qaida to control North Africa and turn it into a new Afghanistan.
21.06 There appears to be a split between Nato head Anders Fogh Rasmussen who says the role of the coalition is to protect civiliians and Hillary Clinton who has interpreted the 1973 UN resolution to mean that it would be legal to arm rebels. William Hague has insisted that arming rebels was not discussed at the summit in London today.
21.41 Nick Clegg has given his endorsement on intervention in Libya while on a foreign policy trip to Mexico City. He hailed a "new axis of openness" in international affairs and said:
Quote I was a strong opponent of the war in Iraq. It was wrong. But the action being taken in Libya today is right.
23.32 President Obama has said in an NBC interview that the goal for the allies is to apply steady pressure to Gaddafi's regime so that he will "ultimately step down". He also stressed that the use of military force in Libya did not indicate that the US would intervene in other conflicts.

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