What effing use is the UN?
Libya is not about a no fly zone. It is most definitely not about protecting civilians. It is not about establishing democracy. The insurgents are islamic activists many of whom most likely fought against the US and UK in Iraq, they are supported at least by al Qaeda, Egypt, Saudi and Iran. They are in the minority as far as support goes, it is an E. Libyan thing arranged by external actors. The opposition “gov’t” is very likely owned.
The UK has gone to war against the Libyan government – that was exercising its legal right under the UN charter to quell armed insurgency – by lying to the UN and the UK public to recover a sponsored, floundering minority coup attempt that has been years in the preparation aided by the CIA and UK secret services (with full knowledge of UK leaders). Here is the latest act of war in a long string.
DT Libya Live
11.29 The latest from Damien McElroy in Tripoli;
Libya’s army has retreated from Ajdabiyah under [aircraft bombing and] fire from the international coalition which is using its might to back an opposition offensive, Khaled Kaim, Libya’s deputy foreign minister, has said.
Tripoli said it would protest to the UN Security Council over the involvement of international forces in weakening the control of Libyan forces over the frontline town of Ajbadiyah, which fell to the rebels this morning.
Mr Kaim said the Libyan armed forces had undertaken a tactical pullback. “The involvement of the coaltion was very direct. They were very involved – that’s why the Libyan armed forces decided to leave Ajdabiyah,” he said.
The aerial attacks on Libyan positions demonstrated foreign forces were attempting to spark a civil war. “What they are doing now is trying to push the country to a civil war,” he said.
[This is a coalition victory, not an insurgent victory. ]
11.47 The Sunday Telegraph’s Colin Freeman has entered the centre of Ajdabiyah, which is now under rebel control.
Quote Lots of pumped-up people firing guns everywhere – all in celebration. No signs of Gaddafi troops, at least in the centre of town. Some damage to buildings in the centre but far from completely flattened – most of the damage seems to be on the outskirts. Not many civilian residents left, most had already departed, apart from men who were fighting for the rebels. Now people are starting to pour in from outside.
["Not many civilian residents left..." so how was this protecting civilians?]
Cameron has lied to the country, lied to the UN and used UK forces illegally to commit illegal acts. He and probably the CIA (I hesitate to say Obama who appears to be a mushroom), likely Sarkozy and the other asshole Rumpoy give every appearance of having aided and abetted arming insurgents using Egypt and Saudi contravening UN rules and now Cameron wants the insurgents to be further armed.
The liars including UN puppets need to be called to account. The opposition (Labour, the second cheek of the tripartite coalition) was in on it so there will be no call from them.
Libyan Hospitals Attacked. Libyan Sources: Three French Jets Downed Global Research
The U.S. and its allies are embarking on another regime change operation. Before they started their attacks on the Libyans, they admitted that there would be civilian causalities in an act of irony. They claim to be acting to save civilians, but they will be killing them.
“Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the action amounts to an ‘act of war’ that is critical to remove Moammar Gadhafi from power before he massacres any more of his own people,” according to the Edmonton Journal.  It also added: “The prime minister acknowledged that the military operation will be complex and could lead to casualties among the very civilians that nations are trying to protect, and perhaps among the military personnel being sent to Libya.” 
The war criminals are back at it again.
Hours after the attacks, sources in Libya have reported that three medical facilities were bombarded.  Two were hospitals and one a medical clinic.  These were civilian facilities.
Al-Tajura Hospital was hit as was Saladin Hospital in Ain Zara. The clinic that was bombed was also located in the vicinity of Tripoli, the Libyan capital. Not only where these civilian structures, but they were also all far away from the combat zone.
Civilian air facilities throughout Libya have been attacked.  Libyan sources have also said that all the Libyan military academies have also been destroyed.  This is a means to prevent Libya from training officers to defend itself.
The same sources have also said that all Libyan military bases were attacked, even ones that have no connection with imposing a no-fly zone. Libyan air bases, naval bases, and ground bases were attacked by the new Iraq-style “coalition of the willing.” Moreover, a vast naval blockade around Libya has now been imposed by the U.S. and its allies.
According to (unconfirmed) internal Libyan sources, two French jets were also shot down by the Libyan military near Janzour (Janzur/Zanzur).  According to the same source, another French military jet was shot down by the Libyans near Anjile.  People in Benghazi are also fleeing the city, because of the war.  Surt (Sidra) and Misratah have also been attacked by the French, the U.S., the British and their coalition allies. 
The U.S. and its allies are now the ones that are creating a real humanitarian disaster. /more
Who Are the Libyan Opposition [Large excerpt from Peter Dale Scott's Libyan Notebook -Who are the Libyan Freedom Fighters and Their Patrons?]
“If Muammar Al Gaddafi behaved paranoid, it was for good reason. It wasn’t long after he reached the age of 27 and led a small group of junior military officers in a bloodless coup d’état against Libyan King Idris on September 1, 1969, that threats to his power and life emerged – from monarchists, Israeli Mossad, Palestinian disaffections, Saudi security, the National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL), the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition (NCLO), British intelligence, United States antagonism and, in 1995, the most serious of all, Al Qaeda-like Libyan Islamic fighting group, known as Al-Jama’a al-Islamiyyah al-Muqatilah bi-Libya. The Colonel reacted brutally, by either expelling or killing those he feared were against him.”3
2) National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL)
“With the aim of overthrowing Libyan strongman Muammar Khadafy, Israel and the U.S. trained anti-Libyan rebels in a number of West and Central African countries. The Paris-based African Confidential newsletter reported on January 5th, 1989, that the US and Israel had set up a series of bases in Chad and other neighboring countries to train 2000 Libyan rebels captured by the Chad army. The group, called The National Front for the Salvation of Libya, was based in Chad.”4
“US official records indicate that funding for the Chad-based secret war against Libya also came from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Morocco, Israel and Iraq. The Saudis, for instance, donated $7m to an opposition group, the National Front for the Salvation of Libya (also backed by French intelligence and the CIA). But a plan to assassinate Gadafi and take over the government on 8 May 1984 was crushed. In the following year, the US asked Egypt to invade Libya and overthrow Gadafi but President Mubarak refused. By the end of 1985, the Washington Post had exposed the plan after congressional leaders opposing it wrote in protest to President Reagan.”5
“The FNSL [National Front for the Salvation of Libya] was part of the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition held in London in 2005, and British resources are being used to support the FNSL and other ‘opposition’ in Libya…. The FNSL held its national congress in the USA in July 2007. Reports of ‘atrocities’ and civilian deaths are being channeled into the western press from operations in Washington DC, and the opposition FNSL is reportedly organizing resistance and military attacks from both inside and outside Libya.”6
3) National Conference for the Libyan Opposition (NCLO),
“The main group leading the insurrection is the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition which includes the National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL). The NFSL, which is leading the violence, is a U.S.-sponsored armed militia of mostly Libyan expatriates and tribes opposed to al-Qaddafi.”7
4) Al-Jama’a al-Islamiyyah al-Muqatilah bi-Libya (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, LIFG)
“The LIFG was founded in 1995 by a group of mujahideen veterans who had fought against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Upon their return to Libya they grew angry about what they viewed as the corruption and impiety of the Libyan regime and formed the LIFG to create a state that would show what they believed to be the true character of the Libyan people.
The most significant LIFG attack was a 1996 attempt to assassinate Gadhafi; LIFG members led by Wadi al-Shateh threw a bomb underneath his motorcade. The group also stages guerilla-style attacks against government security forces from its mountain bases. Although most LIFG members are strictly dedicated to toppling Gadhafi, intelligence reportedly indicates that some have joined forces with al-Qaida to wage jihad against Libyan and Western interests worldwide. ….
As recently as February 2004, then-Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that “one of the most immediate threats [to U.S. security] is from smaller international Sunni extremist groups that have benefited from al-Qaida links. They include … the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.”8
“In recent days Libyan officials have distributed security documents giving the details of Sufiyan al-Koumi, said to be a driver for Osama bin Laden, and of another militant allegedly involved in an “Islamic emirate” in Derna, in now-liberated eastern Libya. Koumi, the documents show, was freed in September 2010 as part of a “reform and repent” initiative organised by Saif al-Islam, Gaddafi’s son….
The LIFG, established in Afghanistan in the 1990s, has assassinated dozens of Libyan soldiers and policemen. In 2009, to mark Gaddafi’s 40 years in power, it apologised for trying to kill him and agreed to lay down its arms. MI6 [British Intelligence] has been accused in the past of supporting it. Six LIFG leaders, still in prison, disavowed their old ways and explained why fighting Gaddafi no longer constituted “legitimate” jihad. Abdul-Hakim al-Hasadi, another freed LIFG member, denied the official claims. “Gaddafi is trying to divide the people,” he told al-Jazeera. “He claims that there is an Islamist emirate in Derna and that I am its emir. He is taking advantage of the fact that I am a former political prisoner.”
Derna is famous as the home of a large number of suicide bombers in Iraq. It is also deeply hostile to Gaddafi. “Residents of eastern Libya in general, and Derna in particular, view the Gaddadfa (Gaddafi’s tribe) as uneducated, uncouth interlopers from an inconsequential part of the country who have ’stolen’ the right to rule in Libya,” US diplomats were told in 2008, in a cable since released by WikiLeaks.
The last 110 members of the LIFG were freed on 16 February, the day after the Libyan uprising began. One of those released, Abdulwahab Mohammed Kayed, is the brother of Abu Yahya Al Libi, one of al Qaida’s top propagandists. Koumi fled Libya and is said to have ended up in Afghanistan working for Bin Laden. Captured in Pakistan, he was handed over to the US and sent to Guantánamo Bay in 2002. In 2009 he was sent back to Libya.9 US counter-terrorist experts have expressed concern that al-Qaida could take advantage of a political vacuum if Gaddafi is overthrown. But most analysts say that, although the Islamists’ ideology has strong resonance in eastern Libya, there is no sign that the protests are going to be hijacked by them.10
“Fierce clashes between [Qadhafi's] security forces and Islamist guerrillas erupted in Benghazi in September 1995, leaving dozens killed on both sides. After weeks of intense fighting, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) formally declared its existence in a communiqué calling Qadhafi’s government “an apostate regime that has blasphemed against the faith of God Almighty” and declaring its overthrow to be “the foremost duty after faith in God.”  This and future LIFG communiqués were issued by Libyan Afghans who had been granted political asylum in Britain…. The involvement of the British government in the LIFG campaign against Qadhafi remains the subject of immense controversy. LIFG’s next big operation, a failed attempt to assassinate Qadhafi in February 1996 that killed several of his bodyguards, was later said to have been financed by British intelligence to the tune of $160,000, according to ex-MI5 officer David Shayler.  While Shayler’s allegations have not been independently confirmed, it is clear that Britain allowed LIFG to develop a base of logistical support and fundraising on its soil. At any rate, financing by bin Laden appears to have been much more important. According to one report, LIFG received up to $50,000 from the Saudi terrorist mastermind for each of its militants killed on the battlefield.” 11
“Americans, Britons and the French are finding themselves as comrades in arms with the rebel Islamic Fighting Group, the most radical element in the Al Qaeda network [to bring down Gaddhafi]. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton admitted the risks of the unholy alliance in a congressional hearing, saying that the Libyan opposition is probably more anti-American than Muammar Gaddhafi. A decade ago, this very same delusion of a Western-Islamist partnership in Kosovo, Bosnia and Chechnya ended abruptly in the 9/11 attacks.”12
5) Transitional National Council
“A RIVAL transitional government to the regime of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi looks set to win US and other international support as momentum builds to oust the longtime dictator.
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton confirmed yesterday that the Obama administration was reaching out to opponents of Colonel Gaddafi. She said the US was willing to offer ‘any kind of assistance’ to remove him from power.
Protest leaders who have taken control in Libya’s eastern cities claim to have established a transitional “national council” that amounts to rival rule. They have called on the country’s army to join them as they prepare for an attack on the capital, Tripoli, where the Libyan leader retains control.
Confident the Libyan leader’s 42-year rule was coming to an end, Mrs Clinton said yesterday: ‘We are just at the beginning of what will follow Gaddafi.’”13
Perhaps the April6 Youth Movement (AYM) will choose its senior members (Soros, Clinton, Rice, Power) and associates more carefully in future after its experience in Egypt where protests have been outlawed, Mubarak henchmen look set to be reinstated and religionists have marginalised the protesters.
I’m going shopping to see if I can find a bullet proof jacket…
I’d like to end with an appeal to Libyan expats that are considering retaliation against the UK.
We have been just as screwed as you, please don’t add to the misery.
A commenter to DT’s Libya Live tony_opmoc gave this excerpt from
The CIA’s Libya Rebels: The Same Terrorists who Killed US, NATO Troops in Iraq
2007 West Point Study Shows Benghazi-Darnah-Tobruk Area was a World Leader in Al Qaeda Suicide Bomber Recruitment
[tony_opmoc] A reasonable analysis of what this is all about has been written by Webster Tarpley. If you are not already confused, then you should be. Just keep your eye on the oil as that is the obvious target.
What is al Qaeda and Why the CIA Has Used It
Al Qaeda is not a centralized organization, but rather a gaggle or congeries of fanatics, dupes, psychotics, misfits, double agents, provocateurs, mercenaries, and other elements. As noted, Al Qaeda was founded by the United States and the British during the struggle against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Many of its leaders, such as the reputed second-in-command Ayman Zawahiri and the current rising star Anwar Awlaki, are evidently double agents of MI-6 and/or the CIA. The basic belief structure of Al Qaeda is that all existing Arab and Moslem governments are illegitimate and should be destroyed, because they do not represent the caliphate which Al Qaeda asserts is described by the Koran. This means that the Al Qaeda ideology offers a ready and easy way for the Anglo-American secret intelligence agencies to attack and destabilize existing Arab and Muslim governments as part of the ceaseless need of imperialism and colonialism to loot and attack the developing nations. This is precisely what is happening in Libya today.
The Obama method is to use Al Qaeda to overthrow independent governments, and then either Balkanize and partition the countries in question, or else use them as kamikaze puppets against larger enemies like Russia, China, or Iran. This approach implies a more or less open fraternization with terrorist groups, which was signaled in a general way in Obamas famous Cairo speech of 2009. The links of the Obama campaign to the terrorist organizations deployed by the CIA against Russia were already a matter of public record three years ago.
The Scenario Uncovered by the 1995 Shayler Affair is Operative Today
In 1995, David Shayler, an official of the British counterintelligence organization MI-5, became aware that his counterpart at the British foreign espionage organization MI-6 had paid the sum of £100,000 to an Al Qaeda affiliate in exchange for the attempt to assassinate Qaddafi. The assassination attempt did occur, and killed several innocent bystanders, but failed to eliminate the Libyan ruler. As Shayler understood the MI-6 scenario, it included the liquidation of Gaddafi, followed by the descent of Libya into chaos and tribal warfare, with a possible option for a direct seizure of power by al Qaeda itself. This situation would then provide a pretext for Britain, probably but not necessarily acting together with the United States or other countries, to invade Libya and seize control of the oil fields, probably establishing a permanent protectorate over the oil regions, the pipelines, and the coast.31 This remains the goal today.
Timed to coincide with the attempt to assassinate Qaddafi, MI-6 and other Western secret intelligence agencies fomented a considerable insurrection in northeast Libya, almost precisely in the same areas which are in rebellion today. Its insurrection was successfully crushed by Qaddafi’s forces by the end of 1996. The events of 2011 are simply a reprise of the imperialist attack on Libya 15 years ago, with the addition of outside intervention..”
So we get the oil, which apparently is worth a lot more than the bombs we use to splatter to pieces the opponents of Al Qaeda.
Apparently we will do absolutely anything to steal oil and have no concern whether we are fighing against Islamic Terrorists – or with them as is apparently the case in Libya…
I hope you understand all the reasons why.
Its the oil stupid.
I don’t know why we don’t just ask nicely for it instead – and give them lots of nice US Dollars instead of bombs. But apparently that is not good for arms sales.
So in my book that makes David Cameron a war criminal – just like Tony Blair.
And the state bank!
The plot thickens:
Anti-Gaddafi plot conceived in Paris – Voltaire Network