September 18th, 2011

Libyagate: poor intel, myopia, ignorance and deceit

Always for the King of Prussia?
Jean Salvan, Officer, General Corps (2S)
July 10, 2011
Since February 2011, ...
Chad's followed with curiosity and concern our former military engagement in Libya, they remember the Senoussia, a Muslim sect fiercely anti-Western, established in 1842. The head of Senoussia Cyrenaica was our main rival when the colonists landed in the Saharan region of Chad. It was only after the defeats of the Senoussia at Bir Ali in 1901 and Galaka Ain in 1912, that we could clear Faya-Largeau in northern Chad. The Senoussia supplied Libya's first king, Idris 1, 1945, at independence.
A century later, we see them coming to the rescue of the descendants of those who were our fiercest opponents, supporters of a fanatical Islam, puzzling ... Have they really changed?

To be clear, Muammar Gaddafi is a ruthless dictator, and the Libyan people have many reasons to rebel against the tyrant: there was no trade union or political party or independent media. Real or imagined opponents disappeared without a trace, as Imam Musa Sadr in 1978. But for Bernard Henri Levy, how to present the problem of Libya is not simplistic? First, even if the family and allies of Gaddafi got rich, the country was developed, its standard of living was the highest in Africa, education, roads, housing and health services are examples in the Muslim world. Libya has since 2007 financed most of the first African satellite telecommunications, which has linked the entire continent by telephone, to television programs broadcast radio industry, agriculture has not been neglected. There were three million migrant workers and no unemployment ... Libya is one of the largest African nations, 1.759 million square kilometers, inhabited by 6 to 8,000,000 inhabitants. The coastline is inhabited by people very close to the Tunisians, the interior is the domain of the tribes, who since the coup of Gaddafi in 1969, dominate the country. In particular, the Qaddafi tribe, to which Qadhafi belongs, made ​​a covenant with the Warfalla, based in Tripoli and the Margarha, based in Fezzan. From the outset, since the coup of 1969, Cyrenaica leads the opposition to Qadhafi and his clique, they provided many fighters in Afghanistan and Iraq. A jihadist group, located on the border between Egypt and Libya: i.e. the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). For many years, we considered them a dangerous terrorist group and we worked with Gaddafi against them ... Recently, Al Qaeda  welcomed the establishment of Islamic emirates in Benghazi, Al Bayda, Derna: reality or propaganda?
Finally, Qaddafi has heavily subsidized the African Union and the Tuareg that are abused in Mali and Niger, and African dictators, which explains the support they have given him, especially mercenaries. It is impossible to confirm speculation that the Algerians and Sahrawis have joined forces ... Gaddafi's Libyan armed forces are not worth much, we realized when they were in Chad from 1982 to 1987. Of 76 000 men, only 10,000 were trained, motivated, paid. They were equipped with Soviet equipment, organized into 10 battalions, armored, 10 mechanized battalions, 22 artillery battalions, six battalions "commandos". The air force consisted of one hundred aircraft, the navy, coastal vessels.

The Libyan revolt is not a true copy of the Tunisian and Egyptian movements. Of course, these examples have been played up and they have suggested that the time was over for dictators, and that the tyrant could be overthrown. But rebellion is part of Cyrenaica, which was since 1969 the permanent home of protest against Gaddafi. It is a local patriotism and the desire for freedom of Benghazi, Tobruk, Derna, which were the main drivers of the revolution, and made ​​them take up arms. For the people of this region, the legitimacy of being the first to oppose Qaddafi, they never cease their opposition. Only the Islamists and jihadists can dispute their legitimacy after the fight against Gaddafi, as they are well organized, ruthless and they have a political project - to establish Sharia law and an Islamic state - to be clear, they provide the majority of fighters. Students familiar with the Internet inspired networks connected to Tunisia and Egypt, even in May 68, to give a playful aspect to the revolt: they make up maybe tomorrow journalists and leaders of local media.
Notables have joined these movements, tribal leaders, businessmen, former henchmen of Gaddafi who have converted. They prepare the post-Qadhafi era: they are the National Transitional Council (CNT). Will they be able to limit the power of the Islamist nuisance?

Policies and strategies of the States
For a long time, the United States and Great Britain had a score to settle with Gaddafi for the Lockerbie bombing. Although Libyan oil accounts for only 2% of world production, reserves are high, quality, ease of extraction: the U.S. wants to control this gold mine. In addition, the Chinese were very active in Libya: The United States wants to eliminate them and replace them. After participating in the initial strikes, the U.S. agents have infiltrated American and British in Libya to advise the insurgents.
The Europeans, as usual, disagreed. Italy and Germany showed the largest reserve: they buy the Libyan oil, they have invested heavily in Libya, which is an important outlet for their exporters. They fear the partition of Libya, or even creating a failed state and terrorists.
France and Britain have sided with the United States, and their predecessors. Of course, since the Lockerbie bombing and that against the plane of UTA, we have a dispute with Gadhafi. But have our diplomats not thought too quickly of a similarity between the Tunisian and Egyptian revolt, did they not underestimated the support of the tribes of Africa and the Tuareg to Gaddafi? Of course, no expert in Chad and the Fezzan, has been asked to advise on our commitment ...
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Doha have supported the rebellion from the start, including their television channels Al Jazeera and Al Arabia. Reactionary monarchies that support a democratic revolution, which advocates the rights of man, can only be explained by the support of Libyan fundamentalist Senoussia: a committee supporting the Libyan monarchy is set in Saudi Arabia Riyadh, as a National Front for the Safety of Libya.
Finally Egypt supports the CNT and the rebellion, it claimed Cyrenaica since 1945, and it would sit well in the partition of Libya.
As for Israel, it can only assist with satisfaction at the decomposition of Libya and the difficulties of one of its fiercest adversaries ...

Where are we?
  At the beginning of the commitment of French forces, the Chief of Staff of our armed forces believed that Qaddafi would be ousted in a few weeks. Clearly, the strength of the Libyan regime and its supporters had been underestimated. Confirmed that the rebellion infantry is enthusiastic but untrained, gets the results against the pathetic remains of the army of Gaddafi. Similarly, the action of the air force without any commitment of ground forces does not obtain decisive results: since the bombing of North Vietnam by the Americans, we should know ... Today four hypotheses seem possible:
1 / Qadhafi remains in power, the failure of our policy of our strategy, and those of Westerners. It seems unlikely.
2 / Gaddafi is eliminated, and the CNT take power. Currently, no one can predict whether it will be able to ensure a democratic transition, or Muslim fundamentalists will establish an Islamic state ...
3 / Libya splits, the clan Gaddafi keeps Tripoli and the CNT or the Islamists run Cyrenaica. ...
4 / The civil war continues, and Libya is a failed state like Somalia. We can not exclude an Egyptian intervention to restore order.

In any case, it seems unlikely that France would get a lot of satisfaction from this Libyan adventure. There is concern that the United States, Germany or the Islamists round up the day. Sea and air forces have shown their limits, they have used their potential, our ammunition stockpiles were insufficient.
Once again, we fight for the King of Prussia?  

July 9, 2011 Source

Lockerbie blame has fairly convincingly been laid at the door of others, the CIA (by a former CIA asset turned whistleblower), who used Palestinian terrorists to plant the explosives to destroy evidence of company drug running, Iran has been implicated and even Mossad that seems never far from any low doings. All of them are more credible perps than Libya. There is even the claim that the crash was an accident caused by faulty welding of a modifcation and that military cargo being carried covertly was the cause of the devastation.
It is easy to understand the desire to find a scapegoat by the masters of manipulation, subterfuge and psyops. Other charges laid at Gaddafi's door bear equally low credibility. Explosives supplied to the IRA have been claimed to be manufactured in Israel, that the Libyan intelligence worked closely with UK and CIA secret services suggests an intelligence plot to maintain terror, justification for security services funding and expansion. That is supported by the Mossad involvement in 9-11 and the UK atrocity that was highly credibly shown in court to be committed by UK security services with Mossad participation implied.
The Libya gang bang has been on the table in the US since at least 1997 and was enacted probably at the Lancaster House meeting between the UK and France. The CIA and MI6 had already brought disparate, rival factions together under the umbrella cause "kill Gaddafi" to form an opposition group. The CIA working with MI6 had been trying to kill Gaddafi practically since he ousted Idris. The lengths they were prepared to go to assassinate the man are incredible. The CIA formed the LIFG terrorist group under a deserter Libyan general. The incompetent group of terrorists failed with several attempts to kill Gaddafi, his paranoia so justified.
As well the upper hierarchy, banksters, corporation owning families and royalty ensured a non-stop defamation campaign by whispers, false allegations especially via the secret services, and propaganda was and is maintained. Gaddafi is an advisor to the Libyan gov't, pursuing him is akin to pursuing Gore, the latter more deserving. Misdeeds that have been remarkably inflated can be blamed mostly on the criminals that have deserted the gov't. An example of Gaddafi's personality was demonstrated when he intervened to commute the death sentence given to Bulgarian nurses. Another is shown in the treatment of prisoners of war. In the case of legit combatants (Libyans) they are handed to their tribes. It appears that the terrorist insurgents rarely take prisoners. In sharp contrast is the disgusting and barbaric behaviour of the western forces, e.g. beheading civilians and giving credit to insurgents, rape and slaughter is typical. The use of forbidden inhuman weaponry by NATO, mustard gas, depleted uranium dirty bombs, white phosphorus in areas populated by civilians is well documented. The justification for the international gang bang was provided by liars and crooks, fabricated, much by the CIA no doubt with MI6 assisting, highly suspect testimony of witnesses hostile to the gov't, the methodology continuing during the blitz with a fabricated campaign to further discredit the regime, viagara, rape, even atrocities committed by terrorist groups like the savage sacking of Zawiya in February by the Algerian GIA, a participant terrorist group alongside if not under the NTC, that was credited to the regime and so it goes.
It seems there are no depths the west's elite will not plumb to achieve their ambition to continue the plunder of Africa. The complicit media keeps the apathetic, brain numbed public misinformed.
CIA is a tool of the CFR that is subservient to Chatham Hse, an advisory group to Bilderberg that in turn is controlled by the Rothschild-Rockefeller families. The UN is funding managed, principally controlled by Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs has a big stake in seeing Gaddafi dead due to fraud committed against Libya for which they faced prosecution, Sarkozy is implicated in that fraud. Sarkozy was also the beneficiary of Libyan largesse, his first campaign for presidency being largely funded by the regime. The list of reasons for wanting Gaddafi dead is endless.
The need for the obviously faked intervention that is a war belongs with the elite scum and leeches of several nations, corporations and banks. The Line tracing responsibilty goes through the CFR back to UK royalty, banksters as the prime movers and their clerks through Bilderberg. Oil cartels are a secondary factor.

NATO is preparing to use nuclear weapons against the Sirte and Beni Walid
September 17, 2011, 14:06 ["," Alexander Grigoriev ]
NATO is preparing to use nuclear weapons against the Sirte and Beni Walid
"Probably against the rebellious cities will be used tactical nuclear weapons. This intelligence comes from Brussels. There are tactical charges, which provide a defeat in a limited area. Delivered by aircraft or special groups of saboteurs, with subsequent activation.
Other means to break the resistance of the defenders of Sirte and the Beni-Walid did not happen. From a purely military point of view - these are ideal objects for defense. Especially Beni Walid. The area around the town is completely controlled by the defenders. Go unnoticed or to buy the defenders, as it was in Tripoli - is impossible. In Sirte, geographic location is not as advantageous. But lets keep the attackers at a distance." This is stated in the information that "arguments. ru" got from former Russian special forces colonel, retired Elijah Koreneva.
According to Koreneva, "the situation with the rebellious cities must close before September 19. Before the meeting of the UN. Rather, it is decided to enter the UN peacekeeping force. Clearly, this is a prime justification for a ground operation."
Verify information through official channels failed.
Leonor - Sabha - Yesterday the bombs on children. Please if someone can translate everything the announcer says, we will know what happened
[MS is co-operating with the CIA and NATO if the link doesn't work use google -]

Open letter to the Russian delegation
Dear sirs-
We, the world community, reach out to you as our last and only hope than international law can be applied with the same weights and measures to all.
Aware that NATO's Libya campaign is based upon lies, aware that the Jamahiriya was not attacking civilians, aware that the terrorist NATO forces supports have been committing atrocities, aware than many of the "rebels" are foreign mercenaries, aware that Colonel Gaddafi has tremendous programmes implemented across Africa and has a good humanitarian record, aware that I've tried to reduce casualties in this conflict to a minimum,
We request the Russian Federation to block the A Resolution on September 19 prolonging the NATO mandate in Libya and that an immediate ceasefire is called, involving the African Union in calling all sides in the conflict to a round table meeting, including the Jamahiriya, for the people of Libya to decide on their future.
Russia is our last hope. We turn to you as the bastion of what is right, and your stand for a world community based upon the same set of laws. Britain and France do not have the right to draw lines on maps as they have done for hundreds of years.
Thank you for your attention,
Brian Souter, Australia

Also see
Half-truths and manipulative words

The international media are manipulating information on Libya
[Some pics and links]
How can the UN authorise the continuation of the actions by an organisation that has been demonstrated to have committed atrocities, crimes against humanity, warcrimes and assisted in genocidal actions of a side involved in the internal action of an armed insurgency against the authorities in a sovereign nation?
The armed insurgency leadership that employs terrorist groups, proven guilty of the same crimes as NATO (e.g. 2 trucks with mustard gas were captured outside Baniwalid) has been given a seat in the UN.
How? Follow the money.

Todays twits
13 NATO Special Ops captured in Bani Walid
It was published here that NATO Special Ops had been dropped inside Bani Walid and that they had been surrounded, taking position in civilian homes, keeping them as human shields. New reports from Russia finally exposes what happened to them. It seems they have been captured by the Libyan Jamahariya Government.
Elijah Koreneva, a retired Russian special force colonel said that these NATO Special Forces could be executed if NATO continues its brutal terror attacks over the town.  

ALBA countries oppose Libyan rebels' UN seat (Mathaba):
[They'll be giving seats to drug and human traffickers next. Oh dear. They funded the NTC from the outset. How about a seat for paedophiles? Or is that quota filled already.]

Land Destroyer - US UK France Qatar help Al Qaeda get seat at UN

2012 Presidential GOP Candidate Rick Perry Crows About How Great Texas Is Doing, Observers Show Texas Now Has Highest Unemployment in 20yrs!

Feb17 rebels backed by NATO = 100% confirmed Al Qaeda LIFG terrorists!!! So says 2 West Point CTC reports

RT_com Gaddafi’s forces make rebels retreat from Bani Walid

CounterPsyOps Beware of false demonstrations in Algeria September 17 2011

US UK backing Feb17 rebels despite them being listed by US State Dept & UK Home Office as TERRORIST ORGS!

US UK also supporting terrorist MEK org in Iraq, Iran. War on terror is a fraud!

Tripoli 2:00 AM twits continue in next post

Libyagate: twits continued from previous post

Tripoli 2:00 AM (Continued from previous post)

Report that legitimate Libyan Government forces have captured (British) SAS troops in Sirte

they allowed TNC to fly passenger jets, Alqaeda will blow up that plane and they will say Jamahiria forces did it
[Justified paranoia?]

Libya’s rebel leader says Moammar Gadhafi is a legitimate target for NATO airstrikes
[Based on what evidence? With what authority? More criminal action from the terrorist leaders]

CNN spews the case to attack Syria, Omits the very same propaganda and charges repeatedly, directly appeared to take place by Libya Rebels

If SAS troops really are captured in Sirte they may be about to find out how much UK Gov cares about its operatives when the stakes are high

Today BaniWalid was attacked by both NATO planes & apache, and rebels, and thanks 2 the heavy resistance the rats were forced to retreat

CNN shows Libya Rebels firing 20mm cannons on Libya civilians in a pro-Gadhafi City. OMITS that is a direct WarCrime,Against UN Res 1973

There is no women's toilet at the NTC headquarters

Libya is quickly TURNING Anti-West far more than under Gadhafi and rightly so after 6 months of NATO terror carpet bombing.

As for Sirte a third rebel brigade sent to take over the airport and like the others they were completely destroyed, as for the other front lines for Sirte the Rebels pulled back a couple of kilometers due to non stop attacks from the people there!

RTcom Thai bombing kills three, injures dozens
[CIA sponsored, CFR inspired?]

Updates from BaniWalid: Rebels COMPLETELY pulled back due to non stop grad rockets from LIBYAS army, about 100 expected killed in the two days

Oh I'm sure they're going to pay Daddy NATO TO BLOW UP EVERYBODY WITH MUSTARD GAS; URANIUM & NUKES for thier fuking FREEDOM

The Mathaba News Real is out

Sarah Palin get's throughly torpedoed in new book 'The Rogue' depicting her as blowing thru Cocaine lines while snowmobiling w/friends.
[Sounds like she's qualified to be in the UK gov't]

Gadhafi loyalists defeat and beat back NATO and Libya Rebel Al Qaeda attacks on pro-Gadhafi civilians

Signs of utterly corrupt Zionist influence on US Lawmakers surfaces as Palestinians face US counteroffensive on UN Vote

PanAf: NATO Brings Race War, Humanitarian Disaster, and the Haitianization of Libya: Two articles sum up

Anyone thinking commercial Nuclear Reactors wouldn't be hit by ICBMs in #WW3 is kidding themselves,and who has the most reactors? USA

Shoot'g occurred in many areas around Tripoli last night, inc Siyahiya, Omar El Mokhtar Rd & AbuSleem. 3 dead in AbuSleem as result

Baniwalid last night!! Celebrations after defeating the rebels

Tripoli 3:00 AM

When I went to Israel 1978 I was shocked to find many Israelis I met HATE AMERICANS/usa & feel USA threatens & watchdogs them

That Islamophobic FBI Training Is Just the Tip of the Iceberg. Mother Jones

Brian Souter: libyanliberal black libyan is alive but family all killed: LibyanLiberal is alive!
[His sister committed suicide to avoid being raped.]

Tripoli 4:00 AM

France bans Muslim praying on streets & side walks, sees it as an 'invasion'

Tripoli  5:00 AM

Daily Telegraph: RAF carries out biggest bombing raid yet on Libya; SAS, MI6 & CIA on ground
[some in safe hands in Baniwalid and Sirte]

Good article! Canada's Afghan mission: Why did Canada join the war in Afghanistan? What did it achieve?
[A. Satisfaction of its bank manager]

Canada’s mission has now morphed into “training” Afghans, it is like teaching the fish to swim. Afghans are natural fighters.
Without any training or outside help, the Afghans have defeated the heavily armed American, Canadian & British soldiers & their allies. Taliban armed with just Kalashnikov rifles hv defeated occupation troops covered fr head to toe with body armour & fancy gadgets. Taliban have been able to beat them so handily without any NATO training & Western forces now want to “train” the Afghans all over again. Maybe, the West should ask the Taliban to train their troops in real combat & regardless of the spin US/NATO have lost the war!
[Where will the Afghans go after Libya? Who will they kill, directed by which Foreign Relations org via which secret service assoc?]

Attack on Libyan oil refinery an "isolated incident" says head of Libya's National Oil Corporation
[Naughty NATO...]

Tripoli  6:00 AM

Brian Souter: UNSC resolution 1973: refutation of the preamble: [NOTE RES 1973 is all about establish
[NOTE RES 1973 is all about establishing a nofly zone, on the basis that the Libyan airforce was doing what US/NATO do regularly in afghanistan and iraq, and Israels airforce do  in Gaza and did in Lebanon 2006: bomb/strafe/terrorise  civiians. As we knew by march 2011, this never took place: There was no evidence when this resolution was written and none after]

Canada lost 157 soldiers btw 2005 - 2011. Not a huge number compared to 10s of 1000s of Afghans blown to pieces for no fault of theirs.

Tripoli 7:00 AM

He said you do not enter the military to kill innocent people overseas. End of story.

Tripoli 8:00 AM

Global Peace Libyas says to beware whats posted on its twitter account:

Tripoli 9:00 AM

The fate of refugees from Misrata, likely insurgency in Libya
[likely insurgency in Libya... that should read counter insurgency.]

How Wall Street Fleeces America: Privatized Banking, Government Collusion and Class War -
[Via the cartel based in the BoE]

Operation Odyssey Dawn: from Aggression to Terror

Tripoli 10:00 AM

In a Move Greatly Applauded Around the Civilized World:Turkey,Egypt AND Jordan has kicked out its Israeli Ambassador,Envoys.

Chinese State-Run Newspaper Warns US against casting a Palestinian State Recognition UN VETO in the US Security Council

98% of the THOUSANDS of people Killed in Pakistan Alone by US Drone Strikes were innocent civilians!
[The CIA should be listed ahead of MI6 and Mossad as a terrorist org.]

Hackers Steal Twitter Security Certificates. I highly recommend ALL Firefox Twitter Users ADDON Calomel SSL Validation

Leonore: NATO helping to the civilians: Information sent by Osabini: Beni Walit was a calm city,...

Tripoli 11:00 AM

"We attack them with rockets, it makes a lot of damage but it is the best way to control them," rebel, so where is HRW?

Invasion continue over Sirte and Bani Walid: Clashes continue to control Bani Walid and Sirte, how.
Clashes continue to control Bani Walid and Sirte, however the efforts of NTC soldiers have been in vain against the resistance of Gaddafi's loyalist forces which are integrated by experienced soldiers, soldiers who are risking their lives in the last battle to resist the invasion. teleSUR
[Subtitles. Also mentions that NATO and the terrorist insurgents are avoiding humanitarian aid reaching the two towns]

Tripoli 12:00 PM

Sadly we are witnessing one of the biggest atrocities of our time, engineered by the hidden agendas of greedy criminals.

Mathaba Subjected to Denial of Service Attack
[Welcome to the club. Not of the same order Libyan towns from Baniwalid and Sirte thru Benghazi to Tripoli are experiencing.]

Global NATO and the recolonisation of Africa
If there was any uncertainty about the real mission of the United States, France, Britain and other members of NATO in Libya, these doubts were clarified with the nature of the military campaign against the people of Libya that had been orchestrated under the mandate of the United Nations Security Council. It was a new kind of war, using third party forces in order to silence the global peace forces who were opposed to further military intervention. A robust propaganda and disinformation campaign by the corporate media covered up the real content of what was happening.

Tripoli 1:00 PM

curtis doebbler -Despite stiff resistance by local residents NATO-led rebels continue to slaughter Libyans. [Citizens]
At UN Libyan delegates meet with Western States ignoring African colleagues.
Several States asked to investigate NATO-led rebel diplomats for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
In most countries and international organizations Libya is still represented by the same old diplomats.

Heroic resistance in Bani Walid, even old man are fighting with rifles.

AJazE  Admits that rebels do not behave in a best way.

For almost two months the people of Sirte have been under constant & indiscriminate attack by NATO-led does nothing.

NATO airstrikes hit residential buildings in Sirte, killing 354 people, Qaddafi spokesman says

Key Lockerbie Witness Admits Perjury
[Damning evidence of a mistrial. Of course the MSM will shout about this. As if.]

Brit Empire mouthpiece states clearly Turkey is "best bet" for empire in region

"Turkey, a Nato member and candidate for membership of the European Union, is the best bet for the west too."

Tripoli 2:00 PM

Lockerbie Affair takes another extraordinary twist. Key Witness Admits Perjury
[Global Research. This is clearer than the last linked article. The innocence of Al Megrahi proven. Compensation to his family if he doesn't survive to claim? MSM will give us the story on the front page. As if.]

the people of Sirte have defeated rebel forces and they made it only to outskirt gate and were wiped out and rebels fled far

Tripoli Large Disputes have begun between Nafusa brigade "amazigh" and Benghazi brigades many killed each other in Power struggle
[Sarkozy, all going according to plan. Liar Cameron, NTC has Libya under control. Visits with 100s of security in place ahead of his visit and many more with him. The definition of "in control" is something different to those in cloud cuckoo land.
The Amazigh tribe wanted greater representation. Idiots.]

Tripoli  3:00 PM
NATO attacked the city of Sirte last night with more than 30 rockets directed at the city's main hotel and the Tamin building, which consists of more than 90 residential flats. - Moussa Ibrahim

RTcom Over 2,000 killed in NATO airstrikes on Gaddafi’s hometown
More than 2,000 people have been killed in 17 days in Libya’s Sirte, the hometown of the country’s fugitive leader, Reuters cites Muammar Gaddafi's spokesman as saying on Saturday. Meanwhile, NATO planes are continuing to attack Libyan military targets in one of the last strongholds of Gaddafi loyalists. The alliance conducted 121 flight missions over Libya on September 16, including 43 strike missions, most of them targeting Sirte.

Turkey to drop 22tons of food over BaniWalid

Sirte completely defeated rebels on all 3 Fronts: west front and Red valley was total rebel wipe. East took longer

Dear Canadians: Notice how globeandmail has elevated Al Qaeda to the level of "Libyan forces"?
The Gadhafi loyalists have so many weapons,” cried Maab Fatel, a 28-year-old revolutionary fighter [terrorist insurgent, there is only one revolution, it is being defended] on the front lines in Bani Walid. “This battle is really crazy.”

NATO bombs hospital in a show of support for Human Rights

don't trust turkey. Turkey will do as the US wants. The food will be poisoned. Do not accept turkeys aid. Its a trap
[Use the POWs as food tasters.]

Tripoli  4:00 PM

NATO`s NTC in Libya Demands Niger Return Libyans
[Behaving like an authoritarian kleptocracy instead of an unwanted caretaker gang]

Pravda.RU: The democracy bomb: When something is built on dishonesty, all else begins to unravel
[Also see Turkey wants to revive Ottoman Empire]

Several volunteers just arrived to BaniWalid, all from the Mgarha tribe in the south!

Loans at interest of course, that would bring debt to oil and gold rich libya, a step towards enslaved
[Wonder why they don't borrow from islamic banks interest free? Bad risk?]

Israel's Lieberman 'plans to punish Turkey'
Israel will facilitate cooperation with the Armenians, Turkey’s historic rivals, and may even lobby for international recognition of the Armenian holocaust, the Hebrew-language daily Yedioth Ahronoth reported.
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman is also planning to meet with Kurdish rebels in Europe in order to “cooperate with them and boost them in every possible area,” Yedioth’s English website said.
“We’ll exact a price from Erdogan that will prove to him that messing with Israel doesn’t pay off,”
[Get Hilary to write a letter... Still theatre so far, psyops to get Arabs to accept central bank controlled Turkey as Arab leader.]

Tripoli  5:00 PM (More in an update later if I can manage)

Greed, the answer.

Libyagate: twits, 9pm 17th to midday 18th

Video proof that Nato is targeting residential areas in Sirte.

Tripoli  9:00 PM
Another video of destroyed Sirt,after NATO humanitarian intervention!

Sirte Inside, Cruel NATO war crimes

Sirte bombarded local radio shortly before 17/9/2011 [vid blocked]

Ignore report from alJazeera about Harawa. Our neighbour got through to relative. Heavy fighting, but rebels did not take town.

La OTAN bombardeó la radio local en Sirte (Libia 17,09,2011) &
NATO has bombed a hospital in Sirte, after bombing a hotel and residential apartments in its latest intensified terror attacks. Almost 400 innocent people have been killed in these terror attacks. This is not the first time NATO has bombed such fascilities in support of Human Rights. Previously NATO bombed a clinic in Zlitan, then NATO bombed a University in Tripoli, then NATO bombed a peace conference in Brega, bombed a village, bombed farms, bombed food storage fascilities, bombed...

Tripoli  10:00 PM
RussiaToday: Hundreds killed in NATO night attack – Gaddafi’s spokesman:
Muammar Gaddafi’s spokesman accused NATO of killing more than 350 people in the town of Sirte overnight, as well as thousands of civilians in the last 17 days.

Confirm arraitv Special forces Dropped into baniwalid NOt Food from Turkey. they were 100. 13 captured nd rest were dead

VoltaireNet: Thousands of people across the United States have protested against corporatism in the country on Saturday, which has been dubbed the "Day of Rage."

Tripoli. Some remain disappread - others are found next day killed.

RT com Black migrants barred from fleeing Libya

ArabSpring Ending in Anglo-American Whimper

Awiniya a "liberated" city - the real pictures from Libya

Tripoli  11:00 PM
WP: Latest developments in Arab political unrest stretching from North Africa to the Persian Gulf:

Libya leak? I never leave home without my camera, even when on holiday. Yesterday that practice paid off....
It was a list of candidates for the as yet unannounced Libyan interim government, a list in which Jibril’s name appeared in the rows for both the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister.  

Sabha Libyan control local radio station & green flags flying in liberated suburbs of AlGardah, Mansheya & Jadeed.

Indicted war criminal on payroll of UK Israel lobby

VoltaireNet: Civilian deaths in Libya: who's killing who?

David Cameron spends 32 million pounds a week supporting people who kidnap and rape women,, impale small boys with stakes

Tripoli  12:00 midnight
Misurata City today received hundreds of injured fighters, where the opposition Field hospital filled with the injured from the Libyan rebels, most of them serious injuries and died 41 of the rebel fighters inside the hospital as a result of the Battle of Sirte

Chinese State-Run Newspaper Warns US against casting a Palestinian State Recognition UN VETO in the US Security Council

InjusticeFacts 98% of the THOUSANDS of people Killed in Pakistan Alone by US Drone Strikes were innocent civilians!

Turkey has sent humanitarian aid to the sons of the city of Bani Walid is the story Utterly Groundless, as the correspondent there says he has not seen any supply sent via aircraft Trika as claimed by Turkey and the city bombed bombed extensively in the role of the absence of the Arab countries.

More then 16 English soldiers were killed in mid-air when they tried to parachute in BaniWalid!

Palestinian Authority President Abbas moves for UN statehood recognition application Sept 19th-23rd

Congressman Brad Sherman wrote to Jibril in May demanding extradition of Al-Hasidi, ban on LIFG & a slice of Libya's $

Explosion near the central bank in Khoms After the Three People Themselves Blew up in a Group of Libyans in the rats resulted in the City Deaths of 14 rats and injuring five of them Allibiya TV ... and so the suicide bombing begins...thanks to NATO UN and R2P

Tripoli  1:00 AM
Rebel commander Bani Walid "leaders keep on making promises... to Sarkozy and Cameron yesterday, and we have to fight and die for it"

Utterly Corrupt Israeli backing of both Romney and Perry indicates Israel is attempting to buy US Pres AND Vice Pres. to use them as Puppets

Tripoli  3:00 AM
2 cars from Boosleem [Abuslim] driving around Tripoli with speakers on the car playing Gaddafi speeches as they open fire on rebel checkpoints!

Tripoli  4:00 AM
PanAFNW: US Imperialists' AFRICOM Leader Discusses War Against Libya:
[Another one from cloud cuckoo land. The gap between reality and what the swivel chair soldier says is only equalled by the space between his ears.]

Confirmed! The airport at the outskirts of Sirte is still in our hands! Any news saying otherwise isn't true!

Today the people of BaniWalid fired rocket after rocket in anger of what has happened in Sirte! The rebels were forced to pull back.

Tripoli  5:00 AM
NATO's cannon fodder in chaos. Reuters reports "Humbled anti-Gaddafi forces gripe outside Bani Walid"

PanAFNW: Libyan Patriots Force Imperialist-backed NTC Rebels to Retreat From Sirte:
The attacking fighters were trying to prevent civilian casualties in the city of 130,000 and were not seeking revenge: "We are not using heavy weapons except to protect our rebels when they are targeted."
[From 10, 20, 30km away?]

Horrifying reports of mass civilian casualties from Sirte; NATO bombing hits a murderous crescendo

IT LOOKS like we'll have to think of new words to describe the NEW ORGY OF VIOLENCE & LIES & new atrocities
[Humanitarian aid blitz]

Stephen Lendman isn't optimistic about the role of UN 'peacekeepers' in Libya. History is on his side, unfortunately
The peacekeepers are coming! The peacekeepers are coming! War, mass killing and destruction continue, but they’re coming!
In fact, paramilitaries are coming to kill and terrorize Libyans wanting liberation, not occupation.

Tripoli  6:00 AM
U.N. recognition of ntc a transgression of fundamental principles of international law

Why is it the western media never mention the DOZENS of hospital patience who were reported missing when the rebels took Tripoli

Libya And Syria: "ALBA Block" Moves To Halt Imperialism Through The United Nations

Brian Souter: Propaganda alert!Khaled M on way to libya to identify alleged frozen bodies in Bab al-aziz

AlQAEDA brigade alSalabi has Attacked his rivals as more rebel brigades such as Zintan Brigade are on edge
[CIA threatens to withhold their salaries and Hilary threatens to write a note... Disintegration in progress. With luck it will spread through the zionist puppet theatre as far as MI6 and pupplet Cameron's UK regime. I predict a 3 way battle at the end, pro gov't versus mozzie bro hoods/alQ versus the colonists, all the other insurgent terrorists having gone back to their home country, NATO and the UN blueys bombing and killing everyone. Pro gov could ally with alQ, the CIA doesn't control it completely]

NATO cheerleaders are silent because they don't want to talk about NATO's crimes against Humanity over Sirte and BaniWalid.

Tripoli  7:00 AM
A.Jules: Faire du hitler sans en avoir l'air !: faire du Hitler sans en avoir l'air!Libye – OTAN,
En -
If these people want to govern the Libya, establish democracy is only misleading aerobatics.

Land Destroyer - the more Feb17 rebels NATO & corporate media lie = theyre losing - failure to take Sirte Bani Walid wks into op is NATO disa

Land Destroyer - Reuters are hacks - a profile in duplicity Thaistory = CONFIRMED paid for propaganda based on Wikileaks hoax

Land Destroyer - Thai"pro-democracy" movement openly working for D.C. & Wall Street. Thaksin sister Yingluck overt traitor

PanAFNW: The CIA: A Paramilitary Organization Which Engages in Targeted Assassination

Land Destroyer - Soros funded HRW awards Soros funded Prachatai medal for "bravery" covered by Pravit - Prachatai contributor

As EuroZone implodes,nations pulling 100s of Billions from Europes Banks,WHY is BarackObama pouring Billions into them

Libyan Hostages forced to give blood to NATO militias and mercenaries

Tripoli  8:00 AM
Ras Lanuf liberated and Libyan Troops enter Misratah
Ras Lanuf has been liberated since 15/sept/11 according to new reports. At the 15th, NATO militias received a devastating defeat and were forced to flee the outskirts of Sirte and wait for NATO to once again continues intensify terror operations killing more than 300 civilians in the town. Other reports suggests that the Libyan Army has entered Misratah, a town which has detached itself from NTC.

Libyans celebrate the defeat of NATO in Bani Walid Sept16

International Observers and Activists warn Libyans about probably NATO genocide
[NATO is pitching a final solution]

Israels evil agenda in backing BOTH Romney & Perry is to place Rick Perry as the VP on the GOP ticket to fight off future impeachment fights

Tripoli  9:00 AM
Bahrain Protesters brutally killed [by Saudi] near main square where they had been demanding sweeping changes to tiny kingdom & & DMail
[Time for Hilary to write a note...]

As NATO Kills Tens of Thousands in Libya UN Loosing All Legitimacy While Deceitful ICC Exposed:

Rebels and Qatari Troops use heavy machine guns on pro-Gadhafi Protesters killing scores before being pushed out

Best offer for rebels - from defenders of Sirte

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Tripoli  10:00 AM
This is the broadcasting station in Sirte.....well whats left of it at least

Must See Montage of Nazi and Ziofacist Photos in Germany 1940 and Israel 2009

Saudi Royal Family WARNS BarackObama Veto UN Palestinian Statehood Request thenSaudi Arabia CUTS its USA Support!
A defining moment of BarackObama legacy, utterly Evil Netanyahu is extorting Obama to Veto UN Palestinian State Vote
Any loss of cooperation between Saudi Arabia & USA would destroy USAs Economy!
[Between a rock and a hard place. hahahahaha. So much for all the public cash poured into Soros, Rockefeller, Rothschild think tanks like Chathom hse, CoR, CFR, ECFR, Bilderberk, etc.]

Land Destroyer - after weeks of "final fight" Feb17 rebels backed by NATO have failed to take nation - NATO UN deadline criminally being ignored
 - how can NATO UN be taken seriously? recognizing a govt led by members of listed terror orgs? Ignoring own deadlines? sounds like 4th Reich

US urges Americans to leave Syria immediately. Is Syria next? NATO
[Or Algeria, Turkey, Saudi, Iran, Russia, Lebanon, N. Korea, China, Venezuala, Cuba,  .................................]

Land Destroyer - rebels routed from Bani Walid - even w/ NATO terror bombing obviously city rejects NATO stooge government

NTC cowards still afraid to move in to Tripoli, but they claim they control Tripoli - sense of humour

Obama " We will not deploy ground troops into Libya"! .....6 months later...."

Qadhafi. Americans, Did You Know About This

RTcom. UNESCO plans mission in Libya: The continuing war in Libya is endangering five sites on UNESCO’s World Heritage list

Tripoli  11:00 AM
Land Destroyer - everything you need to know about Reuters fraud Andrew Marshall & his WIkileaks based Thaistory

70% Interest on Greek and other failing EU nations NOW, a sure sign of inevitable COLLAPSE, no way to pay back 2x the loaned amts
[Gods bless the Greek bank clerks and GS for creating the EU collapse]

10 Rebels reported dead near BaniWalid, apparently they had a couple of incidents with the missiles they tried to fire at the city!

In Bani Walid Green Soldiers ambushed the Rebels Saturday and forced them into a retreat again.

Instead of a political dialog with cities supporting Kaddafi, NATO rebels are offering starvation and bombs.

Press TV: Syrian opposition meets in Damascus: Syrian opposition meets in Damascus Over 200 Syrian o
Over 200 Syrian opposition figures met in Halboun in the outskirts of the capital Damascus in order to coordinate efforts to build a national opposition movement
[Self annointed, CIA/Soros sponsored? CIA's aQ backed?]

Tripoli  12:00 Midday

Sociopaths going nuclear
The new doctrine states that Command, Control, and Coordination (CCC) regarding the use of nuclear weapons should be "flexible", allowing geographic combat commanders to decide if and when to use of nuclear weapons:
Known in official Washington, as "Joint Publication 3-12", the new nuclear doctrine (Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations, (DJNO) (March 2005)) calls for "integrating conventional and nuclear attacks" under a unified and "integrated" Command and Control (C2).
It largely describes war planning as a management decision-making process, where military and strategic objectives are to be achieved, through a mix of instruments, with little concern for the resulting loss of human life.

The Libyan gov't has given the terrorist insurgents until the end of the month to lay down their arms - or die. The way the internecine feuding is going on, the mission to wipe them out may be accomplished by the end of the month without the Libyan army doing anything other than what they are doing already.

If the legit gov't prevails (the terrorist insurgency has control of a couple of hundred sq km of one and 2 thirds million sq km), holds elections and is returned to office, compensation from aggressor nations will be demanded. That is another reason why the zionists will stop at nothing to get the terrorists into power. It would be side-achingly funny to see the zionist empire collapse in court, defeated by a tiny nation of 6-8 mil souls.

Did the CIA-NATO plot to kill civilians using armour disguised as Libyan army fall through due to lack of interest of intended victims?
Still no word on the Canadian warship claimed to have been destroyed off Sirte.
Will the UN continue to rubber stamp the Libyan gang bang continuation every 3 months or will it extend the rubber stamp to 12 months, later every 3 years?
Did liar Cameron hear the 2 explosions in Tripoli or was he never there? Is he aware that there was a mini war in Tripoli, Abuslim between protesters and terrorist insurgents? (Al Q represents the NTC in the 20% of Tripoli it controls. Are the UK, Qatar forces guarding the state central bank still there or deployed to the battle front as the gold ain't there? Or was it there and we are being fed another lie?)
Will the US use low yield nukes on Sirte and Bani Walid as nothing else is working?,
Russia will veto an extension of the NFZ tomorrow. It will go to the general assembly where a majority vote is enough. NATO will carry on killing civilians while the puppet politicos mither.
The good news.
Greece is banging an empty drum that is rapidly becoming vacuum filled that will suck the EU in to form an all devouring black hole. Zionist bilderberg's EC will try to form a financial and political union of the strong countries, hopefully that lets the UK out as it is no better off than Greece.
Pro, anti Israel - Turkey, Egypt, US, Greece, Libya, UN, a right a pigs breakfast the scum have created. Let's hope some of the deviants and their clapped out think tanks get the bullet. Some more literally than others.
The zionist puppet that is pouring US funds into the zionist cartel's EU banking system, Obama, his popularity rating continues to follow the path set by Berlusconi and contested in the race for zero by Sarkozy. How is the liar Cameron's rating doing? His kleptocratic regime party's?
If UKIP or BNP ever get to No10 there will be a mountain of shredded evidence to dispose of.