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08 December 2015 @ 01:01 pm
US Involvement in Turkey’s Shoot Down of the Russian Jet  
Author: Maram Susli (Syrian Partisan Girl) 01.12.2015

45344344In the wake of Turkey’s shoot down of the Russian Su-24, the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called the attack a planned provocation. He went further on to suggest the US had given Turkey permission to shoot down the Jet. He explained that countries using US manufactured weapons must ask the US for permission before using them in operations. The aircraft used to shoot down the Su-24 was a US-made F-16. Indeed, there is evidence to suggest that not only did the US give Turkey permission, but that it was moving the strings behind the entire operation.
Two Russian aircrafts were attacked that day, but the second was a far less publicised incident. A Russian
helicopter was destroyed by the CIA backed FSA using US provided Anti-Tank TOW missiles. The helicopter was on a rescue mission to find the missing Su-24 pilots and the attack resulted in the death of a Russian Marine. Since the US backs the FSA and provided the TOW missiles which were used in the attack, they are at least indirectly responsible, if not outrightly complicit in it. But instead of apologizing to Russia, US state department spokesman Mark Toner defended the actions of the FSA. He also defended the actions of the Turkmen insurgents who shot at the parachuting Russian pilots, a war crime under the first geneva convention. Such an antagonistic position reveals that the US was not displeased by the attacks on Russia.
In the months leading up to the attack, there were several indicators the US knew it would take place. On September 3rd, the families of US staff members were urged to evacuated out of Incirlik air base in Turkey and were given until October 1st to do so. On November 3rd, the US deployed F-15 fighter Jets to Turkey which are specifically designed for air-to-air combat. Since ISIS has no planes, the target could only have been Russian aircrafts. Most significantly, on October 21st, the US and Russia signed a deconfliction protocol, in order to ‘avoid clashes in Syria’s skies’. This entailed giving the US information about where and when Russia will conduct sorties. Russian president Putin suggested this information was passed on to Turkey by the US and used to shoot down the Sukhoi-24.
During the months leading up to the attack, US War hawks were increasingly calling for a direct confrontation with Russia, an act that could lead to a third world War. Several US Presidential candidates, including Hillary Clinton, were effectively calling for a shoot down of a Russian Jet. Some of the more direct comments included,
Chris Christie: “My first phone call would be to Vladimir, and I’d say to him, listen, we’re enforcing this no-fly zone,” adding that he would shoot down Russian warplanes that violate the no-fly zone.
Jeb Bush: “We need to have no fly zones. The argument is, well we’ll get into the conflict with Russia, maybe Russia shouldn’t want to be in conflict with us. I mean, this is a place where American leadership is desperately needed.”
The spokesman for the Zionist Israeli lobbying group AIPAC, Senator John Mccain, suggested arming Al Qaeda Linked Rebels with Anti-Aircraft weapons to shoot down a Russian Jet. An idea which he himself admits was “what we did in Afghanistan many years ago”. The policy which resulted in the birth of Al Qaeda and the rise of the Taliban. Indeed Qatar had been making an effort towards this end. Documents leaked by Russian hackers ‘Cyber Berkut”, revealed that Qatar was negotiating with Ukraine to purchase Anti-Air weapons to help ISIS shoot down a Russian Jet over Syria. It is likely Ukraine refused to sell these weapons, since arming assets which are difficult control could backfire. After all, US Jets are also using those skies. Flooding the region with hand held Anti-Air weapons could pose a threat them in future. Turkey is a far more reliable and controllable proxy which is capable of shooting down Russian Jets.
Perhaps one of the most significant War hawk statements comes from the Former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski. In an Op-ed for the Financial times Brzezinski suggested that Obama should retaliate if Russia continues to attack U.S. assets in Syria, i.e the Al Qaeda linked rebels. Brzezinski, has experience using Al Qaeda as an asset, having been one of the masterminds behind its creation in Afghanistan. He maintains a great deal of influence and respect in US politics.
It is likely Brzezinski’s dangerous advice to attack Russia was taken on board by US decision makers. But instead of risking a direct conflict with two nuclear powers, Turkey was used as a proxy. Turkey has its own agenda in attacking Russian jets outside of the US’s interests. Turkish president Erdogan has already committed himself to an anti-Assad position far beyond the point of no return. This was over a gas pipeline deal with Qatar that is now looking more like a pipe dream. Russia has been actively fighting not only ISIS, but Al Qaeda and its affiliates who are crucial for Turkey’s plans to overthrow the Syrian government. The Su-24 was bombing the Al Qaeda-linked Turkmen insurgents, before it was shot down.
On October 8, NATO made a statement that it would defend Turkey against Russia, after a Russian jet briefly passed through turkish airspace on its way to bomb targets in Syria. Such statements may have encouraged Erdogan to take the exceptional risk of shooting down a Russian Jet under the assumption that Turkey would be protected by NATO.  On November 12th, EU countries committed to pay Turkey 3 billion dollars.  Interestingly this is the same amount Turkey is estimated to lose, as a result of Russian sanctions put in place in the wake of the attack. This could have been Part of NATO’s assurance to Erdogan that he would lose nothing by going ahead with the attack.Erdogan has become increasingly frustrated, even after four years of war, the Syrian state shows no sign of collapse. It might not have been too difficult for the US to convince the desperate Turkish leader that attacking a super power was in his best interest.

Maram Susli also known as “Syrian Girl,” is an activist-journalist and social commentator covering Syria and the wider topic of geopolitics. especially for the online magazineNew Eastern Outlook”.

First appeared: http://journal-neo.org/2015/12/01/us-involvement-in-turkey-s-shoot-down-of-the-russian-jet/

Good reporting.
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:06 pm (UTC)
Mad King Erdogan’s Oil Lies
Author: Gordon Duff 07.12.2015
Erdogan is claiming he stole no oil. He has threatened to resign if he receives proof. There is little doubt that Erdogan is insane, those who have been watching his dance of death with ISIS have known this all along.
However, while Erdogan talks only of oil, there are other issues to note as well. First of all, let’s talk about arms shipments that cross Turkey and move into Syria and Iraq. By Erdogan’s claim of total innocence, we must assume that ISIS, al Qaeda and the other openly terrorist groups that make up 95% of those fighting against Iraq and Syria are operating without any outside supplies.
To some extent this was true with major bases in both Iraq and Syria falling into terrorist hands in 2012, hundreds of American Humvee’s and Abrams tanks, even a few Syrian Air Force planes. In fact, much of the best of this equipment including dozens of updated Soviet era T-72 tanks are in wait inside Turkey, protected by Erdogan for that “drive on Damascus” that seems more and more unlikely as time goes on.
The most notorious theft Erdogan is hoping goes unnoticed is an entire Syria automobile assembly plant from the suburbs of Aleppo. In meetings with Dr. Najm Hamad al-Ahmad, Syrian Minister of Justice in Damascus a major subject of discussion was Turkish organized crime and the systematic looting of Syria and Iraq, not just antiquities and oil, but “everything that wasn’t nailed down.”
Where Erdogan’s wild claims fail is simple as looking at a map. When Russia publishes surveillance photos of not just hundreds but thousands of oil trucks, how can there be denial? The roads that these trucks use only go to Turkey.
They don’t go anyplace else, there is no place else. There is absolutely no vehicle traffic between the Turkish occupied areas of Iraq and Syria, and we might as well call them that, and the areas under control of the legitimate governments in Baghdad and Damascus.
Much of the war is for control of roads in and out of Turkey, roads that carry oil to Turkey from Raqqah and Der Ezzor now being retaken by the Syrian Army or roads in and through Hasakah that are the target of the supposedly US backed Kurdish YPG and Pergmersha, organizations continually under Turkish air assault, one of the greatest unreported stories of the war.
Recently a series of numbers has been tossed around. Britain’s Cameron says that 70,000 new “recruits” are needed to fight ISIS. Of course, what Cameron is not saying is that the last 70,000 channel through Turkey into Syria and Iraq, funded by Cameron’s allies Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Israel, are in fact ISIS. Is Cameron really telling us that in order to defeat the newly mobilized Iraqi Army and the Russian and Iranian backed Syrian forces, ISIS will need 70,000 more recruits and Britain stands ready to do her part?
Another number involves closing the Turkish border. We are told that 30,000 troops will be required, Turkish forces, to stop the continual travel in and out of Turkey, the huge oil convoys, the NGO trucks loaded with arms and ammunition, all this traffic that if Erdogan is not lying to us never existed in the first place.
Why does a border need to be closed, why is everyone, Hollande of France, Merkel of Germany, certainly Obama and Putin, even Turkey in its own way, why does this border need “closing” unless it is continually being transited in support of terrorism?
What is support of terrorism if it isn’t trading oil for arms or, moreover, trading oil and the other loot of Iraq and Syria, for the cooperation of Turkish politicians and, just perhaps, their European and American friends as well.
More http://journal-neo.org/2015/12/07/mad-king-erdogan-s-oil-lies/
King? Surely it should be Sultan.
I think there was a lot more factories stolen than 'just' an automobile assembly plant.
Wiki has a decent description, says According to the Syrian Foreign Ministry, some 1,000 factories in Aleppo have been plundered, and their stolen goods transferred to Turkey with the full knowledge and facilitation of the Turkish government.

Edited at 2015-12-08 02:11 pm (UTC)
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:13 pm (UTC)
Assange on 'US Empire', Assad govt overthrow plans & new book 'The WikiLeaks Files' (EXCLUSIVE)

9 Sep, 2015
Afshin Rattansi goes underground with the world's most wanted publisher – the founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange. He just co-authored a book called “The WikiLeaks Files,” which paints a picture of systemic US torture and killing as well as the destruction of the lives and livelihoods of billions of people right around the world.
We speak to Julian about the UK/US special relationship, when he is going to be free, and the war on Syria.
Vid https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/314808-assange-corbyn-us-wikileaks/
Going Underground http://fb.me/GoingUndergroundRT
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:20 pm (UTC)
American-allied nations are secretly helping ISIS to grow - US Colonel Ann Wrig
RT Sophie Shevardnadze 8 Sep, 2014
The US invasion of Iraq in 2003 came with many warnings that it would lead to a dire consequences for the whole region. A decade later, and the brutal jihadists from ISIS are dominating the north of the devastated country. Now, the US is again mulling the possibility of sending its army to Iraq once more - but would that actually help solve the issue? From where does the money come for the Islamic State? Is America obliged to save Iraq after what it's done to that nation? We ask these questions to American Colonel and former diplomat Ann Wright on Sophie&Co today.
Sophie Shevardnadze:Colonel, the 2003 war in Iraq was a reason you left the U.S. military after many years. Do you feel the roots of what’s happening now lie back then?
Ann Wright: Well, yes. In 2003 I did resign from the Federal government. I actually had order to retire from the military; I was a U.S. diplomat, and I was one of the three diplomats who resigned in opposition to the war in Iraq. And I do feel that there are so many similarities now, 11 years later with the issue that the Obama administration is bringing forward, and they are seeming intent that they will be using military force to resolve the further issues in Iraq, and perhaps even in Syria.
More, vid https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/185848-us-invasion-iraq-isis/

Edited at 2015-12-08 02:30 pm (UTC)
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:24 pm (UTC)
Chomsky: NATO is a U.S.-run intervention force

RT Sophie Shevardnadze 7 Nov, 2014
How did Russia and the West slip back into what seems like the Cold War all over again? How dangerous is the current confrontation? Should the world be ready to face a nuclear war? We ask somebody who’s renowned for his insights. World-famous academic, linguist, philosopher and political commentator Noam Chomsky is on Sophie&Co today.
Sophie Shevardnadze: World-renowned academic Noam Chomsky, Professor Noam Chomsky, welcome to the show, it’s a great pleasure to have you with us today. Now, today U.S.-Russia relations are at a Cold War low. Rhetoric resembles what we heard in the 80-s. What is the worst-case scenario we could see this turn into? Can the Cold War turn hot? Does U.S. want war?
Noam Chomsky: The worst-case scenario, of course, would be a nuclear war, which would be terrible. Both states that initiate it will be wiped out by the consequences. That’s the worst-case. And it’s come ominously close several times in the past, dramatically close. And it could happen again, but not planned, but just by the accidental interactions that take place - that has almost happened. It’s worth remembering that just one century ago, the First World War broke out through a series of such accidental interchanges. The First World War was horrifying enough, but the current reenactment of it means the end of the human race.
More, vid https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/202967-cold-nuclear-war-nato/
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:27 pm (UTC)
Atomic Armageddon is just 30 minutes away – former US Navy advisor
RT Sophie Shevardnadze 7 Dec, 2015
The Nuclear End of the World never happened. When the Cold War finally ended, the whole world sighed in relief as the threat of total annihilation seemingly passed. And yet, 25 years later, both the US and Russia once again are pumping up their nuclear arsenal, and the Doomsday Clock shows it's just three minutes before midnight. Is nuclear destruction looming once again over humankind? And, even if no state is actually ready to press the button – could Atomic Armageddon happen by accident? We ask these and many other questions to a specialist on nuclear technology, a professor from MIT and a former adviser to the US Chief of Naval Operations. Dr. Theodore Postol is on Sophie&Co.
Sophie Shevardnadze: Dr. Theodore Postol, former advisor to the U.S. Chief of Naval Operations, a professor at MIT, nuclear technology expert, welcome to the show, it's great to have you with us - so, Ted, President Obama came into the White House calling for "Global Zero" - now, there are plans to spend a trillion dollars on an overall of entire nuclear arsenal. Why is this happening?
More, vid https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/324941-nuclear-cold-war-us/

Edited at 2015-12-08 02:29 pm (UTC)
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:38 pm (UTC)
US to pull Patriot anti-air missiles from Turkey

RT 17 Aug, 2015 03:25
The US has followed in Germany’s footsteps, announcing that it will not be renewing its Patriot defense system in Turkey once it expires in October. The anti-air missile units will be shipped home for upgrades.
The information was released in a joint statement by Washington and Ankara.
“The United States has informed the Turkish government that the US deployment of Patriot air and missile defense units in Turkey which expires in October will not be renewed beyond the end of the current rotation,” said the message posted on the US Embassy in Turkey’s website.
The statement added that the units will be sent back to the US to be upgraded. “They will be redeployed to the United States for critical modernization upgrades that will ensure the US missile defense force remains capable of countering evolving global threats and protecting Allies and partners – including Turkey. This decision follows a US review of global missile defense posture.”
The decision was made a day after fellow NATO member Germany announced the withdrawal of its own missile defense systems from Turkey.
More, pics https://www.rt.com/news/312606-us-patriot-missiles-turkey/
Russia neutralised them, as well as a missile ship.
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:43 pm (UTC)
Flesh-eating skin disease grips ISIS-controlled areas in Syria (GRAPHIC)

RT 8 Dec, 2015 05:10
The collapse of medical services in terrorist-controlled parts of Syria has caused the spread of a flesh-eating virus transmitted by parasites munching on corpses dumped in the streets
“As a result of abominable acts by ISIS that included the killing of innocent people and dumping their corpses in streets, this is the leading factor behind the rapid spread of Leishmanisis disease,” Dilqash Isa, the head of the Kurdish Red Crescent told the Kurdish Rudaw news.
More, vid, pics https://www.rt.com/news/325054-flesh-eating-disease-isis-syria/
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:49 pm (UTC)
Russian submarine with cruise missiles off Syria coast - reports

RT 8 Dec, 2015
An advanced Kilo-class submarine has appeared near the Syrian coast, according to a source within the Russian MoD. The Rostov-on-Don sub is equipped with modern Russian Kalibr cruise missiles.
In mid-November, there were reports of the same submarine striking targets in the Islamic State stronghold of Raqqa.
These were neither confirmed nor denied by the MoD. Russian warships in the Caspian Sea hit Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) targets in Syria with modern Kalibr cruise missiles in early October.
More, vid, pics https://www.rt.com/news/325060-russian-kilo-submarine-syria/
More than one apparently. French and Americans have an aircraft carrier. Americans probably have subs there too.
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 02:58 pm (UTC)
Russian strategic bombers hit ISIS positions with cruise missiles, smart bombs (VIDEO)

RT 19 Nov, 2015
Russia’s Defense Ministry has released new videos of retribution attacks on Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) with strategic bombers launching smart bombs and cruise missiles.
Strategic aviation was scrambled shortly after confirmation that the Russian passenger plane that crashed in Egypt's Sinai Desert on October 31 was downed by a terrorist
More, vids https://www.rt.com/news/322705-russian-strategic-bombing-isis/
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 03:03 pm (UTC)
RT Newsline

14:22 GMT
Rival Afghan Taliban groups clash near Herat, dozens killed – report
More than 50 people have been killed and dozens more wounded in renewed fighting between rival Taliban factions in Shindand district near the western Afghan city of Herat, Reuters reported, citing a local police spokesman. Ehsanullah Hayat said 54 insurgents had been killed and around 40 wounded in the fighting between commanders loyal to Mullah Akhtar Mansour and his rival Mullah Mohammad Rasool Akhund. The fighting was continuing, he said. Rival groups have rejected the authority of Mullah Mansour, a successor to the Islamist movement’s founder, Mullah Mohammad Omar. There has been intermittent fighting in which scores have been killed.

13:49 GMT
Islamist groups in Syria attract 31,000 foreign fighters - ex-UK spy chief
Islamist groups in Syria have more than doubled the recruitment of foreign fighters to as many as 31,000 over the past 18 months, a former British spy chief said. The Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) “has seen success beyond the dreams of other terrorist groups that now appear conventional and even old-fashioned, such as Al-Qaeda,” said Richard Barrett, who was formerly head of global counter-terrorism at Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service, MI6. Most of the foreign fighters in Syria are Arabs from the Middle East and Africa, Barrett said in a report by Soufan Group, an intelligence consultancy. Significant numbers came from Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and the former Soviet Union, and about 5,000 have traveled from the EU, Reuters quoted Barrett as saying.

13:20 GMT
US military reports 31 airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, Iraq
The US-led coalition staged 31 airstrikes in Syria and Iraq against the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) group on Monday, Reuters reported. In Iraq, 20 airstrikes near eight cities struck eight tactical units and destroyed several vehicles, buildings and other targets, the US military said Tuesday. Eleven strikes near three Syrian cities reportedly hit 10 tactical units and other targets.

12:53 GMT
Blast at Moscow bus stop caused by hand grenade – police
The blast at a bus stop on Pokrovka Street in central Moscow was caused by an F1 hand grenade rather than a firecracker, as previously thought, RIA Novosti reported Tuesday, citing a police statement. Five people were injured after a blast on Monday. Police opened a criminal case into hooliganism following the incident.

11:42 GMT
6 migrant children die, 8 rescued after boat sinks off western Turkey
At least six children died and eight other people were rescued on Tuesday after a boat carrying migrants bound for Greece capsized off Turkey’s western coast near the city of Izmir, Reuters said. The Turkish coastguard received a distress signal at midnight on Monday and extended a search operation into Tuesday’s daylight hours, Dogan reported. The coastguard found the bodies of six children including a baby, Anadolu reported, adding that the migrants on the boat were Afghans. It was not immediately clear how many people in all were on board. A record 500,000 refugees from the war in Syria have traveled through Turkey and risked their lives in rickety boats to reach nearby Greek islands this year.

11:17 GMT
Beijing criticizes deployment of US Navy Poseidon aircraft to Singapore
China on Tuesday criticized closer US defense ties with Singapore that include the deployment of US Navy P-8 Poseidon surveillance aircraft to the Southeast Asian city state. A stronger US military presence does “not conform to the common and long-term interests among the regional countries,” AP quoted Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chuying as saying. “We hope the relevant side does more to enhance mutual trust among regional countries,” Hua said. The statement followed the signing of an enhanced defense cooperation agreement on Monday between US Defense Secretary Ash Carton and Singapore Defense Minister Ng Eng Hen.
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 03:29 pm (UTC)
Russia deploys S-400 missile defense systems in Arctic

RT 8 Dec, 2015
Two cutting-edge S-400 missile systems have been deployed to Russia’s Arctic region north of the polar circle over the past year, a military source has revealed. The news comes as Russia reasserts its military presence in the Arctic.
The surface-to-air missile systems have been deployed to the Novaya Zemlya archipelago and to the Yakutian port of Tiksi in the Arctic Ocean, a source at the Russian General Staff of Armed Forces told TASS news agency.
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An S-400 air defence missile system is deployed for a combat duty at the Hmeymim airbase to provide security of the Russian air group's flights in Syria. © Dmitriy Vinogradov No US airstrikes in Syria since Russia deployed S-400 systems
The source said the S-400 deployment areas are secured with Pantsir-S1 (NATO classification SA-22 Greyhound) short-range mobile air defense systems, armed with Igla-S surface-to-air missile launchers and double-barreled Djigit 30mm cannons.
“Over the past year, two S-400 regiments have been deployed in the Novaya Zemlya archipelago and in the Yakutian town of Tiksi,” the source said.
The military base on Novaya Zemlya has also been reinforced with Bastion-P complexes armed with P-800 Yakhont anti-ship cruise missiles.
“These systems are on twenty-four-hour alert,” the source said, stressing that there are many other military installations in the Arctic armed with missiles, air-defense systems and artillery batteries, “from the Cola Peninsula and Novaya Zemlya in the west to Andyr and the Mys Shmidta in the east.
“All of them are carrying out military tasks,” the source said.
The Russian military is currently finalizing construction and renovation works at six military bases in the Arctic region.
More, vids, pics https://www.rt.com/news/325094-s-400-arctic-deployment/
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 03:49 pm (UTC)
Purge? Corbyn’s Momentum group to exclude socialists

RT 8 Dec, 2015
Labour Party Leader Jeremy Corbyn’s Momentum group and senior MPs are trying to block the influence of leftist groups, such as the Socialist Party of England & Wales, citing fears of entryist hijacking.
A central part of the effort will involve drawing up of a new code of conduct that will block socialists and communists from being elected to leadership roles and attending debates.
The move is partially driven by fears that leftist organizations could discredit the movement, which was set up to continue the spirit and energy developed during Corbyn’s leadership election campaign.
Many grassroots activists and far-left groups have called for the deselection of unpopular Labour MPs, including those who voted for bombing Syria last Wednesday.
One of the chief supporters of purging Momentum is Labour’s Deputy Leader Tom Watson, who took to Twitter on Tuesday to argue Momentum had a problem with entryism and that without discipline it could damage Labour.
More https://www.rt.com/uk/325090-momentum-purge-far-left/
He has to get the party sorted for him to have a chance next election. I would give the rebels the bums rush and make sure it was me that interviews prospective candidates.
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 03:56 pm (UTC)
‘Britain’s got its mojo back in Syria, with US in reasserting Western values’ – Osborne
8 Dec, 2015
Britain’s new bombing campaign in Syria signals a return to its commitment of asserting Western values around the world and shows the UK has got its “mojo back,” according to Chancellor George Osborne.
Addressing the Council of Foreign Relations on Monday, Osborne lauded the overwhelming vote by MPs last Wednesday to extend airstrikes against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) from Iraq into Syria.
“Britain has got its mojo back and we are going to be with you as we reassert Western values, confident that our best days lie ahead,” he told audience members at a meeting of the think tank held in New York.
He marveled at the turnaround since the failed 2013 vote on bombing Bashar Assad’s regime.
“The House of Commons did not agree with the proposition that David Cameron and myself and my colleagues in the Conservative leadership put forward and it was quite a striking moment,” he argued.
“It was a moment when Britain was unable to follow the lead asked of it by our prime minister and the government.
More https://www.rt.com/uk/325081-syria-airstrikes-values-osborne/
Does he know the public know he and the MPs are criminals voting to bomb civilians in Syria? Bombing a sovereign nation without an invitation? Have the illegally bombing nations got enough military to fight Russia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, China yet? Have they decided where they will ship the dead military through so they can lie to the public about where they died as they did with the Libya deaths? How many nuclear subs does Russia have in the Med? Pinpoint targetting cruise missiles from the Caspian?

Lots of good comments. Here's one -
Illya Kuryakin3 hours ago
LOL They conduct half a dozen sorties hitting sites that Russia already vapourized weeks ago and that is cause for Mojo celebrations?!
[How much profit have the weapons makers profitted already at taxpayer expense.]
I could make a few suggestions to the criminal Osborne that involve a bazooka and an orifice. A man pad would do at a push.

Edited at 2015-12-08 07:01 pm (UTC)
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 08:00 pm (UTC)
Is Britain still Christian country?

RT 8 Dec, 2015
Founder of English Democrats Party, Robin Tilbrook, says the UK has always been a Christian country, while Muslim political commentator Mo Ansar argues there are many different religions in Britain nowadays that are entitled to representation.
Britain is not a Christian country anymore, according to two-year study, headed by a retired senior judge Baroness Butler-Sloss. Her report on the place of religion in the UK showed a drastic decline in the number of Christians in British society. It also suggests Christianity should be removed from British public life and for a greater voice to be given to other faiths and non-religious views.
RT: In the figures the number of Christians is declining in the UK. Isn't it fair to say it's no longer a Christian country?
Robin Tilbrook: I think we still have got a large number of people who identify themselves as Christians. After all, in England we’ve got the Church of England, which is the established church. It has bishops appointed automatically as part of the legislature and the House of Lords. Our head of state is also the supreme governor of the Church of England. So Christianity is very much embedded in a way of doing things in our politics, and it is also very much part of our culture.
More https://www.rt.com/op-edge/325104-christians-muslims-uk-religion/
Again good comments.
clothcapclothcap on December 8th, 2015 08:10 pm (UTC)
Is Islamic State now equipped with a NATO air force?

John Wight
John Wight has written for newspapers and websites across the world, including the Independent, Morning Star, Huffington Post, Counterpunch, London Progressive Journal, and Foreign Policy Journal. He is also a regular commentator on RT and BBC Radio. He wrote a memoir of the five years he spent in Hollywood, where he worked in the movie industry prior to becoming a full time and activist and organizer with the US antiwar movement post-9/11. The book is titled Dreams That Die and is published by Zero Books. John is currently working on a book exploring the role of the West in the Arab Spring. You can follow him on Twitter @JohnWight1
RT 8 Dec, 2015
Within the past two weeks Turkish F-16s have shot down a Russian SU-24 bomber and a US-led coalition airstrike has hit a military base controlled by the Syrian Arab Army. It begs the question: are these people actually insane?
ISIS could not have had a better two weeks than these past two if it had its own air force. But with the US and Turkey among its 'enemies' it appears they don’t need one, for those countries have been doing its job for them.
How else are we to explain the strikes carried out by both countries, not against ISIS but against Russia and Syria, who are fighting ISIS?
Never in the annals of military conflict has such a dangerous and absurd scenario been played out as the one being played out in Syria today. Two entirely separate multi-nation coalitions are engaged in combat operations against one enemy, thus dictating they coordinate and combine their efforts. Yet such is the lack of leadership and statesmanship within one of those coalitions – led by Washington – that the prospect remains a distant dream even after a recent spate of atrocities resulted in the mass murder of citizens and civilians belonging to both.
This at least is one narrative, which holds that incompetence, stupidity and hubris is the root of the problem, impairing the judgment and clarity of the West when it comes to Syria and the wider region, responsible for allowing a terrorist menace in the shape of ISIS and other extremist groups to grow and enjoy the kind of success they should never have enjoyed.
Continues https://www.rt.com/op-edge/325087-islamic-state-nato-us/
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© Russell Cheyne. NATO’s absurd denials amid acts of war in Syria
Turkey is a NATO country like almost all of Europe and the Commonwealth. An attack by Turkey is a NATO action.