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03 October 2015 @ 07:06 pm
About Dave jokingly slandering democratically elected "Butcher Assad"  
It was a joke wasn't it? Not just another lie? Here's a small part of what the Syrian govenment has been confronting:

With One Bombing Run Russia Gets the US to Acknowledge CIA’s “Covert” Regime Change Forces

For some time, a number of us have been tracking the collective forgetfulness about CIA’s acknowledged covert forces on the ground in Syria. I often point back to the day two years ago when Chuck Hagel confirmed our covert efforts in Syria in a congressional hearing, as well as Senate Foreign Relations Committee member frustration with their inability to get details on the acknowledged covert ops (that already numbered in the thousands, according to Tom Udall) there. Jim and I have written a slew of other posts about CIA’s covert forces there (one two three four five six seven are just a small sampling).

More recently, Adam Johnson caught NYT and Vox pretending CIA’s efforts don’t exist at all.

This past week, two pieces—one in the New York Timesdetailing the “finger pointing” over Obama’s “failed” Syria policy, and a Vox“explainer” of the Syrian civil war—did one better: They didn’t just omit the fact that the CIA has been arming, training and funding rebels since 2012, they heavily implied they had never done so.

To be fair, some intelligence reporters have done consistently good reporting on CIA’s covert war in Syria. But the policy people — especially the ones reporting how if Obama had supported “moderate” rebels sooner — usually pretend no one knows that Obama did support Qatar and Saudi-vetted liver-eating rebels sooner and they often turned out to be Islamists.

The selective ignorance about CIA’s covert operations in Syria seems to have been eliminated, however, with one Russian bombing run that targeted them.

Russia launched airstrikes in Syria on Wednesday, catching U.S. and Western officials off guard and drawing new condemnation as evidence suggested Moscow wasn’t targeting extremist group Islamic State, but rather other opponents of Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

One of the airstrikes hit an area primarily held by rebels backed by the Central Intelligence Agency and allied spy services, U.S. officials said, catapulting the Syrian crisis to a new level of danger and uncertainty. Moscow’s entry means the world’s most powerful militaries—including the U.S., Britain and France—now are flying uncoordinated combat missions, heightening the risk of conflict in the skies over Syria.

Thus far, of course, US officials are insisting that the anti-Assad troops Russia targeted are wholly distinct from ISIS (even while they remain silent about whether they’re Islamic extremists).

Secretary of State John Kerry met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and said he raised U.S. concerns about attacks that target regime opponents other than Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL. In Syria’s multi-sided war, Mr. Assad’s military—aided by Iran and the Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah—is fighting both Islamic State and opposition rebel groups, some of which are supported by the U.S. and its allies.


The U.S. and its allies were angry at the Russians on many scores: that they are supporting Mr. Assad; that they aren’t coordinating their actions with the existing, U.S.-led anti-Islamic State coalition; that they provided terse notice only an hour before their operations; that they demanded the U.S. coalition stay out of Syrian airspace; and that they struck in areas where anti-Assad rebels—not Islamic State—operate.

“It does appear that they were in areas where there probably were not ISIL forces, and that is precisely one of the problems with this whole approach,” said Mr. Carter, the U.S. defense chief.

This attempt to distinguish ISIS from the CIA-backed rebels will quickly lead to an awkward place for the Administration and its allies, not least because making any distinction will require providing details on the vetting process used to select these forces, as well as addressing the evidence of cooperation with ISIS or traditional al Qaeda in the past. Plus, the more the US argues these groups that aren’t entirely distinct from al Qaeda are entirely distinct from ISIS, it will make the Administration’s claim that the 2001 AUMF against Al Qaeda authorizes it to fight ISIS (in related news, DOJ just denied USAT’s FOIA request for 3 OLC documents making that case) really wobbly. Any claim Russia makes that these anti-Assad forces are also Islamic extremists (and therefore entirely legitimate targets in the fight against ISIS) will be based on intelligence that is no more shitty than US intelligence that they’re not, especially given that CentCom admits on the record it can’t even trust (much less vet) the communications it is getting from rebels on the ground about their coordination with al Qaeda. It will devolve into a he-said-she-said about whose claims are more suspect, Assad’s or the Saudis’ who’ve been pushing for regime change long before the Arab Spring gave then an opportunity to push it along.

And all the while, any pretense that CIA’s involvement is covert will grow more and more laughable. Reporting like this — which claims Putin has “hijacked” Obama’s war on ISIS when the content only makes sense if Putin has more urgently hijacked Obama’s regime change efforts against Assad — will become more and more laughable.

Whatever Russia’s entry does for the tactical confrontation (I have no hopes it will do anything but make this conflict even bloodier, and possibly expand it into other countries), it has clarified a discussion the US has always tried to obscure. There are plenty of US backed forces on the ground — which may or may not be Islamic extremists (see Pat Lang on this point) — whose priority is toppling Bashar al-Assad, not defeating ISIS. While there will be some interesting fights about who they really are in coming days (and whether CIA has already acknowledged that it inflamed Islamists with its regime change efforts), American priorities will become increasingly clear.

Make no mistake: I am not defending Russia, Syria, our vetted “moderate” rebels, Saudi Arabia, or anyone else. It’s a volatile situation and none of the outside intervention seems to be helping. But one big reason we’ve been failing is because we’ve been lying publicly about the forces on the ground. Those lies just got a lot harder to sustain.

Intelligent comments emptywheel.net/2015/10/01/with-one-bombing-run-russia-gets-the-us-to-identify-cias-covert-forces/

clothcapclothcap on October 3rd, 2015 06:13 pm (UTC)
Tactical Things
‘Collateral damage’: At least 3 MSF staff killed in suspected US airstrike in Kunduz, Afghanistan
[US uses 'dumb' bombs.]
Governments representing 63% of the EU ban Monsanto GMO corn! Fantastic!
Glenn Greenwald
The @MSF hospital bombed by the US "is the only medical facility in the region that can deal with major injuries."
Russian Air Force decimating terrorist command centers, bunkers, camps, workshops

Scott Horton
LATEST: 16 ppl killed - 9 MSF staff, 7 patients (3 children). 37 injured - 19 staff (5 critical) & 18 patients & caretakers.
Borzou Daragahi
Damning, must-read account of Saudi regime callousness in Hajj disaster, written by physician who survived stampede

Jamila Hanan
they'd call it a war crime if Putin bombed a hospital. And it is a war crime.
Neil Hargraves
& the total subjection of civilian populations to casual automated military violence. It is, truly, disgusting.
. @AlanAlanh07 there's been over 2000 civilian deaths in Yemen mostly from weapons using precision guided technology
Donatella Rovera
As Saudi & Co block UN human rights inquiry into Yemen war USA UK keep shamefully quiet

Activist Post
"IRS Agent Busted for Attempting to Extort $20,000 from Cannabis Shop Owner"
High-Speed Scripted ISIS Show Morphs Into Awkward Potential WW3 Trigger Scenario
Abby Martin & Chris Hedges on War, Propaganda & the Enemy Within

green heart
Be Careful Russia - Goldman Says $20 Oil Is Possible

Zero Anthropology
Meanwhile, Hollywood's dreams for the future of Americans? Hiding in bunkers and eating canned beans. If no total hegemony, then apocalypse.

Press TV Breaking
Saudi warplanes target electricity project in Hidan district in Yemen’s Sa'ada province
[Saudis targetting civilians and infrastructure. NATO tactics.]
4000-year-old Cypress tree of Abarqu, Iran.
Russia's Lukoil sees Iran deals imminent Read:
Russian jets target main Daesh stronghold in Syria: Report - http://ptv.io/1xuF
UK super rich given low interest mortgages by Gov., while to ordinary people housing it's just worsening - http://ptv.io/1xul

Enrique Ferro
Obama claims Russian airstrikes ‘strengthening ISIS’ | @scoopit http://sco.lt/50AfkP

Lisa Karpova
pete john

Stop War Crimes
Phil Greaves
Any petty booj 'Left' who fails to support right of nations to self-determination is a scoundrel & an imperialist.
clothcapclothcap on October 3rd, 2015 06:14 pm (UTC)
Fukushima police sends nuclear contamination case against TEPCO execs to prosecutors

MSF International
Kunduz update:at least 16 dead incl 9 MSF staff, 7 patients from intensive care (3 children) 37 injured:19 staff, 18 patients & caretakers
Adam Johnson
That awkward feel when almost every western publication runs the exact same talking point on the exact same day.
Doctors w/o Borders
MSF had informed all parties to the conflict, incl in Kabul and Washington, of precise location (GPS Coordinates) of MSF facility in Kunduz
Club des Cordeliers
1. US claims about its "precision munitions" sparing civilians are false. I'm going to post a few things I've written on this topic.
2. "This style of warfare resulted in massive civilian casualties" http://www.rupe-india.org/34/torment.html
3. "decisively refutes US propaganda claims that drones are 'precision weapons'" http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2012/levich181012.html
4. "'the purpose of precision-guided munitions is not to avoid 'collateral damage'" http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2007/levich190107.html

Petri Krohn
I did NOT expect NATO to threaten Russia jets hitting CIA-armed rebels in Syria.
An escalation?
DETAILS: Over 600 militants left their positions after RussiaVsISIL airstrikes http://sptnkne.ws/QSs

Sāṭeʿ ساطع
the Lemniscat
Hillary Clinton called Assad "a reformer" (before he became "a killer" for fighting her Al-Qaeda proxies in Syria)
Moon of Alabama
SaveOurMercenaries DontBombAlQaeda
Oren Adaki
Only one in 20 Russian air strikes in Syria are aimed at Islamic State target
Danielle Ryan
Some thoughts on Syria and the Western media spin machines going into overdrive:

jose nascimento
Russian Aviation Hits Over 50 ISIL Facilities in Syria With 60 Flights http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151003/1027968467/russian-aviation-50-isil-facilities.html
MORE:About 600 ISIL fighters left positions,"trying to get to Europe" http://sptnkne.ws/QSs Syria RussiaVsISIL

nsnbc international
Dozens Injured By Israeli Army Fire In Jerusalem, Five Kidnapped http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=bZ__evywnJw
"The “new Turkey” is built upon a triad of marauder capitalism, repressive government, and conservative Islamism" http://monthlyreview.org/2015/06/01/the-new-turkey-fetishizing-growth-with-fatal-results/
clothcapclothcap on October 3rd, 2015 06:15 pm (UTC)
Study: Red Wines in U.S. Found to Contain ‘High Levels of Arsenic’
Newly Published Clinton Email Reveals How Government Manipulates Media
Russia, Turkey agree to draft text of gas pipeline deal by Nov 1 – Russian energy minister
Sott Exclusive: CNN and Murdoch News run fake stories on ‘civilian casualties’ of Russian airstrikes in Syria
http://www.therussophile.org/sott-exclusive-cnn-and-murdoch-news-run-fake-stories-on-civilian-casualties-of-russian-airstrikes-in-syria-video.html/ vid
These emails show Monsanto leaning on professors to fight the GMO PR war

Mike Prysner
The Empire Files
NEW EPISODE UP! Go inside the Saudi Kingdom to find slavery, butchery and rebellion. WATCH NOW on @telesurenglish:

Karol en Red
Russia Insider
Syrian Human Rights Source Widely Cited by BCC, CNN, Guardian, etc, is ... Ahem ... a Fraud (Video)
Enrico Ivanov
Russia's Sukhois obliterate Daesh command centers; Western press in a frenzy: JeSuisISIS.

C.J. Chivers
Amid outrage of RuAF strike on 1st-responders of @SyriaCivilDef, remember: @NATO used same tactic in Libya, 2011. World mostly shrugged.
Mark Urban
From Konduz to Yemen to Syria awful news today underlining that airpower carries plenty of risk for all concerned
The White Helmets @SyriaCivilDef
With sadness, team of @SyriaCivilDef struck in Russian double tap today in Ihlem (Idlib) while rescuing civilians.

Cynthia McKinney
Good Question: What's an NSA former employee doing at Uber?

Net News Global
US senators slam Obama’s Syria strategy as Russia steps up role
Taliban shadow governor slain in northeast Afghanistan
STUDY: Advocating for Palestinian Human Rights Could Make You a Target

What do we British Citizens get from having Wars abroad?
Does Governments of England give the people Cheap Oil?
Cheap Food?
Cheap Water??
Instead we have FoodBanks. Cutting welfare, impacting only the poor. Yet our youth today are brainwashed to think going to war is good?
Download the book which stirred Zionist regime's reaction:

Robina Creaser
David Taylor
"Study Concludes Rise in Autism Not Due to Better Diagnosis"
http://bit.ly/1jFDlam Obviously authors don't read @latimes or @AbcarianLAT
Elisabeth Kendall
Looks like AQAP blew up the famous shrine of Ya'qub in al-Mukalla in east Yemen yesterday. Watch here:
clothcapclothcap on October 3rd, 2015 06:37 pm (UTC)
Western spin machines functioning at full capacity on Syria
Journalitico October 2, 2015 Danielle Ryan
Well the ‘US good, Russia bad’ propaganda drive has reached full-blown hysteria mode this week. My sincerest compliments to the usual suspects, you are absolutely playing a blinder.
I’m especially impressed by how quickly you all became such staunch humanitarians and tallied up the civilian casualties from the handful of Russian strikes mere moments after the bombs were dropped. That’s dedication.
And hey, don’t worry about totting up the civilians casualties from the 20,000 bombs the US has dropped on Syria and Iraq for the past year. That’s yesterday’s news.
Russia’s airstrikes in Syria began on Wednesday. They appear to be targeting both ISIS and other terrorist factions, including Al Qaeda and Al Nusra. There are reports that the strikes have also hit CIA-trained ‘rebel’ camps.
The interesting thing about this is that until this week, Western media had been dutifully telling everyone that the US only really had about ‘four or five’ serious rebels in Syria and that the White House hadn’t really put much muscle into this whole ‘train the rebels’ thing. Then Russia strikes, and BAM, American-trained rebels as far as the eye can see. They’re everywhere. Russia is bombing them. No one can stop it. Oh, the horror. We must act! Our “rebel friends” need us.
More http://journalitico.com/2015/10/02/western-spin-machines-functioning-at-full-capacity-on-syria/

Edited at 2015-10-03 06:40 pm (UTC)
clothcapclothcap on October 3rd, 2015 06:59 pm (UTC)
The bankster's predatory war machine implementation team consists of complicit politicians, complicit spy agencies, complicit military, complicit media, a brainwashed public and weak victim states.
The hysterical reaction of neocons and media show that it wasn't expected that Russia would get involved, 100% legally unlike the banksters' collection of terrorism supporting countries that includes Cameron's regime.

BBC anti Assad and anti Putin propaganda has ramped up to full steam. Haven't heard any criticism of the bombing of a hospital against int.law by the US (to whom UK forces have been seconded). It's a war crime, the hospital was targetted deliberately btw.
clothcapclothcap on October 3rd, 2015 07:06 pm (UTC)
Saudi Arabia Worries about Civilian Casualties
Days after Bombing a Wedding Party and Squelching UN Investigation in Yemen
Published October 2, 2015 By emptywheel
On Monday, coalition forces in Yemen bombed a wedding party, killing over 130 people.
The death toll from an air strike on a wedding party in Yemen has jumped to 131, medics said on Tuesday, in one of the deadliest attacks on civilians in Yemen’s war that drew strong condemnation from the U.N. secretary-general.
On Tuesday, a medical source at Maqbana hospital, where most of the casualties were taken, said the death toll had climbed to 131 people, including many women and children.
The United Nations and international rights groups have expressed alarm at the escalating number of civilian deaths in Yemen – at least 2,355 out of more than 4,500 people killed from the end of March to Sept. 24, according to figures released by the U.N. human rights office in Geneva on Tuesday.
On Wednesday, Saudi Arabia succeeded in pressuring western governments to withdraw a Dutch resolution to conduct an inquiry into the civilian casualties caused by both sides in Yemen.
More https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/10/02/days-after-bombing-a-wedding-party-and-squelching-un-investigation-in-yemen-saudi-arabia-worries-about-civilian-casualties/
That would be the Cameron regime supported Saudis
clothcapclothcap on October 3rd, 2015 09:06 pm (UTC)
Revealed: Panorama's plans to smear survivors of child abuse
BBC seeks to discredit police witnesses and supporters despite scandal over Jimmy Savile
By Mark Watts 1 October 2015
BBC1's panorama is planning to attack survivors of child sex abuse and others who are uncovering evidence of a 'Westminster paedophile network'.
clothcapclothcap on October 3rd, 2015 09:36 pm (UTC)
Mr Cameron. Why does your regime borrow currency when it can create it?
Because you can borrow as much as you like (for wars, HSTs, CO2 boondoggle subsidies, bank bailouts, pay rises, IMF investments and on and on.)

Do you know you can print it? There's historical precedent.

Bankers, Bradburys and the carnage on the Western Front!
©2012 Justin Walker - ©2012 Nick Green - All Rights Reserved
Author: Justin Walker - Yorkshire Dales
Design & Publication: Nick Green - English Lake District
A sovereign nation or country is only truly sovereign if it has complete control over its own money supply.
The selected ten quotes I have added on the next page all show that we, the ordinary decent people of Great Britain, have a real problem on our hands.
Since the establishment of the Bank of England in 1694, there has been a gradual and orchestrated attempt by a few wealthy families to ensure that all money for the country’s use is created by them out of thin air and as debt.
It is vital for the future well-being of our country that money must once again serve the people and not the other way round.
This complex system of money supply that can only result in spiraling debt, increasing fear and abject misery must
now be taken down lawfully and without violence.
Almost one hundred years ago at the outbreak of the First World War, a little known historical precedent took place
which is now the key to our freedom from the private bankers and their unlawful debt and control over us.
So here’s the little known story of The Bradbury Pound
...... enjoy and be inspired!
Justin Walker
November 2012

As I start to write this article, today is Remembrance Sunday and I’m listening live to the sombre but magnificent strains of Elgar’s Nimrod as the parade at The Cenotaph assembles for the nation’s annual act of remembrance to the fallen. Like almost everyone else, I’m always humbled and moved by the veterans’ march-past to pay their respects to fallen friends and comrades – but this year I will find it particularly poignant in the light of my recent research concerning a little known fact about the outbreak of the First World War. Let me explain.
E-book here http://www.ukcolumn.org/sites/default/files/pdf/bankers-bradburys-carnage-western-front.pdf
(Anonymous) on October 4th, 2015 12:38 am (UTC)
Anti-Vaxxes shoot themselves in the foot.
"Most experts today agree that the belief that childhood vaccines cause autism is based on bunk science. Even still, some advocacy groups claim immunizations are responsible for raising the risk for this neurodevelopmental condition, despite a growing body of research that shows there isn’t a link. (The study that most anti-vaccination groups point to was retracted after it was found to be based on falsified data.)

Despite the science, organizations involved in the anti-vaccine movement still hope to find some evidence that vaccines threaten children’s health. For example, the autism advocacy organization SafeMinds recently funded research it hoped would prove vaccines cause autism in children. But this effort appears to have backfired for the organization—whose mission is to raise awareness about how certain environmental exposures may be linked to autism—since the study SafeMinds supported showed a link between autism and vaccines does not exist."
clothcapclothcap on October 4th, 2015 10:54 am (UTC)
Re: Anti-Vaxxes shoot themselves in the foot.
The compulsory vaccination opposers lose their argument because of a study on 12 infants was withdrawn?
Vaccines are safe based on a study of apes?
Is it even possible to detect autism in apes?
If memory serves it was a statistical correlation between the growth in autism cases and the increase in vaccinations that was the strongest argument.
The onus is on pharma to demonstrate vaccines are safe for humans long term. Still waiting.

Aside from the propaganda aspects of the article and the weak arguments put forward, compulsory vaccines are unconstitutional and a crime involving GBH when a person is stabbed by a medical accomplice to big pharma profit and political ambition.
Weaponising vaccines, the Gates Foundation vaccines killed a multitude and sterilised more, is not just harmful and immoral, it's a crime.

Don't you think something is wrong when you get parents demonised for refusing vaccination of their kids based on the south of sane inference promoted by controlled media that they could infect vaccinated kids?

Is it about protecting people or about profit? Occam's razor says follow the money.
Re: Anti-Vaxxes shoot themselves in the foot. - clothcap on October 4th, 2015 01:26 pm (UTC) (Expand)
clothcapclothcap on October 4th, 2015 07:20 am (UTC)
Labour launches national campaign to Stop Tory Tax Credit Cuts:
3.2 million families face an average of £1,300 cut in the income if the tax credit cuts are made
Labour Press
Seema Malhotra MP, Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury, has today officially launched Labour’s Stop the Tax Credits Cuts campaign, against Tory cuts which the House of Commons Library estimates will lead to an average £1,300 cut in the annual income of around 3.2 million families, including 2.7 million families with 5.2 million children in them, if they come into effect as planned in April 2016.
Commenting on the Tory Tax Credit Cut plans, Ms Malhotra said:
“David Cameron, George Osborne and the rest of the Tory MPs who voted for these pernicious cuts to the incomes of millions of hard-working families throughout out the UK should be ashamed of themselves.
“Over the next weeks and months Labour will be taking its campaign to stop to Stop the Tax Credit Cuts to high streets and homes across the UK. If George Osborne doesn’t back down we will make sure that the millions of those low and middle income families know exactly who is to blame for the savage cuts that will hit them next April.”
Data supplied by HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) shows that more than 2.7m working families will have their family incomes fall, with some losing as much as £3,000 a year next April if the cuts are implemented as planned.
More http://press.labour.org.uk/post/130387490714/labour-launches-national-campaign-to-stop-tory-tax
clothcapclothcap on October 4th, 2015 07:44 am (UTC)
An illusionist, I don't recall his name appeared to make the Statue of Liberty vanish. People were baffled and impressed because they didn't see how it could be done.
Look at it this way. The difficulty isn't in making the statue disappear and reappear, film editing makes that simple, the difficulty is convincing the larger audience watching TV that it happened.
A convincing small live audience is the key. Even that can be fabricated by skillful film editors.
Think of the illusion created on 9-11.
clothcapclothcap on October 4th, 2015 08:05 am (UTC)
As more people wake up to the way the system plays them for the fool, more cracks appear in the presentation.
Cameron is the illusionist's presenter. His job is to maintain the illusion and distract from failings in the presentation.
Assad is not a brutal dictator, a very large number of the sunni muslim majority supported the government before Assad began implementation of UN recommendations to westernize the system. There was even a democratic election...

Bashar al-Assad wins re-election in Syria as uprising against him rages on

Assad captures another seven-year term after winning almost 90% of the vote, with polling only held in government-held areas
Associated Press in Damascus
Wednesday 4 June 2014 20.48 BST
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been re-elected in a landslide, officials said on Wednesday, capturing another seven-year term in the middle of a bloody three-year-old uprising against his rule that has devastated the country.
Syria's parliament speaker, Jihad Lahan, announced the final results from Tuesday's election, saying Assad garnered 10,319,723 votes, or 88.7%. Laham said Assad's two challengers, Hassan al-Nouri and Maher Hajjar, won 4.3% and 3.2% respectively. The supreme constitutional court put turnout at 73.42%.
Story http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/04/bashar-al-assad-winds-reelection-in-landslide-victory

Conspiracy theorists have rumbled what is going on. Cameron, from a banking family that was involved in profits from drugs and slaving wants them criminalised.

Edited at 2015-10-04 08:14 am (UTC)
clothcapclothcap on October 4th, 2015 12:17 pm (UTC)
Computerised, Mechanised Sex
Seems no trade or profession is safe.
Androids are set to take a big slice of the prostitution business in years to come.

In surgeries, a computer touch screen is replacing the friendly receptionist.

Surgeons? Laser eye surgery is already a production line operation.

Politicians will never be replaced because there is no need for them (in their present inhuman form).

Farming and industry are already a long way down the road to full mechanisation.

Is that what we want, a leisure society for the few with the rest of us selectively (those not rich or are disabled or lazy) killed off or neutered and the remainder so deep in inherited debt we are born into slavery?

The debt slavery trap works by currency fraud. Crooked politicians take printed paper of no value, give it value by saying they will take it as payment of tax and then pay the valueless paper printer in interest bearing bonds guaranteed by future tax as if the printed paper had value before the crooked politicians took it.

Politicians need to be pressed to stand up for debt free currency. Except they don't represent the public. Hence the flutter amongst the ranks of the regime faithful (the LibLabConUall party) when a threat to the illusion comes along.

It is a fact that debt created by the currency fraud can never be repaid while the currency fraud continues because each £ put into circulation is less than the value of the debt it creates by its purchase using bonds.

I just created £50 billion in conopoly money. How can I exchange it for real value? Ask a politician, they know how or suffer from profit motivated blindness.

Is anyone ok that the social security system is being plundered to enrich the purveyors of the currency fraud, the private BoE and High St. banks? They haven't earned the nickname 'bank mafia' without justification.

How to repay the 'debt'? Get an honest government to create its own fiat currency and use that to replace the privately created currency. Prosecute all those involved in sustaining the fraud. Confiscate all profits and acquisitions enabled by the currency fraud.

The present incumbents are crooks by complicity or by silence. To get an honest replacement the threat from the public for participating in the fraud has to be greater than the threat from the psychopathic criminals running the fraud. I don't think petitions are a useful way to go.

Billboards NYC 9-11 style stating that every £ printed is bought from private concerns at full face value plus compounding interest before it is even circulated.
Publicly audit the BoE.

Christianity and muslimism decry usury. And killing people. Is the pope a christian? Is the vatican bank christian? Your local politician certainly isn't. The royals head the BoE with the Rothschilds. They aren't christians either.

clothcapclothcap on October 4th, 2015 12:43 pm (UTC)
Should the debt created by politicians, imposed on the parents by the politicians be passed on to successive generations?
Should each party that creates additional debt have that increase as a burden on that party rather than on the public?
What has the public gained from the debt funded savage war of aggression on Libya? What has humanity gained?
What is the debt funded terrorist war on Syria about?
Why is the oppressive and brutal Saudi regime backed by the UK in war and in the UN?
Ditto apartheid and brutal Israel?