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18 February 2015 @ 03:16 pm
Ukraine (2) Ukrainian General Staff Confirms Debaltsevo Force Collapse  
Ukrainian General Staff Confirms Losing  Control Over Debaltsevo Forces
 2/17/2017 Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
Earlier today the Russian Spring reported that, according to the information from the relatives of UAF troops located in the vicinity of Debaltsevo, the chain of command has completely broken down and the troops were issued orders to break out of the cauldron on their own. However, several Ukrainian media immediately denied the reports, claiming it was panic-mongering.
However, only an hour ago the acting spokesperson for the Ukrainian General Staff Vladislav Seleznev confirmed this information during a live interview on the TV channel 112, saying that DPR units were assaulting the UAF base-camp at Debaltsevo, and that the headquarters for all UAF forces there has been destroyed.
Oddly enough, Seleznev would not confirm that the Ukrainian forces are in a cauldron. But he did not deny it either.
J.Hawk’s Comment:
So it’s coming to an end. It’s only a matter of how many troops make it out alive. But the loss of equipment, combined with earlier losses here and everywhere, put into question the UAF’s ability to conduct large-scale operations for a long time to come. The days of “Victory” have come to an end. The days of “Treason” are only beginning… Poroshenko and others were able to avoid reckoning for the earlier Ilovaysk debacle apparently only by promising a rematch. They seem to have lost that one too, and Round 3 does not seem in the cards. But Round 2 is the only thing that kept all the different factions of the very fragile "pro-European" junta together.
Source http://kingworldnews.com/wests-great-charade-coming-end/

It's a second Ilovaysk"--Ukrainian reactions to Debaltsevo
“The Debaltsevo Cauldron had closed. It's a second Ilovaysk.”
2/18/2015 By Yuliana Skibitskaya
Translated from Russian and Ukrainian by J.Hawk
We have collected the statements from combat participants and commentary from social networks concerning the events at Debaltsevo.
Dmitriy Gross, Deputy Commander, 25th “Kievan Russ” Battalion
“We are under fire from mortars, Grads, self-propelled howitzers, small arms, and lots of other stuff. There is close combat in the streets. 90% of the civilian population had left. Debaltsevo is not fully surrounded, but all roads leading into it are under militant [sic] fire. It is practically impossible to enter the city.
“Gusar,” an officer of the 128th Brigade (published on the Zerkalo Nedeli web site):
“We are facing the second Ilovaysk. It’s been five days since the cauldron had closed. When the Donetsk Airport was taken, they lied to people for five days that it’s under control. In reality it was the other way around. Debaltsevo is under de-facto encirclement since five days ago. There used to be a small path out, which they tried to use to break out. They lost vehicles but broke out. The enemy occupied the commanding heights along the road and has it covered with fire. People are telling us nice stories that there are still communication routs, some detours, dirt roads…There was a road like that, but as of yesterday the convoy of five vehicles that left Debaltsevo yesterday lost all five of them. Only seven guys made it out. We don’t know what happened to the rest.”
Viktor Baloga, Politician [Transcarpathia oligarch, governor] (comment on facebook).
“Mr. President. You and I both know well that we no longer control Debaltsevo. I’ll say more. Preventing the media from reporting the true state of affairs will not help anyone. Our own HQ is lying worse than the Russians. Moreover, the lies are obvious—there are so many people there that it’s impossible to conceal the truth. My local guys are there, lots of them. But since nobody is doing anything, they are losign faith.
You know what needs to be done, both in the military and diplomatic sense. In other words, either we cancel the ceasefire which had never existed for the entire region, switch on the artillery and send weapons and ammunition in. Or we decide to withdraw. The decision must be made NOW!”
Deputy Commander of the 25th “Kievan Rus” Battalion
“The situation in Debaltsevo is critical, very bad. 90% of Debaltsevo is under their control. It is in operational encirclement. All three roads to the city are mined and under dense enemy fire. Our higher command is gone. The Sector command and commander were here. But in reality he abandoned this position and caused senseless losses. The command is not in control of the situation here.”
“The Debaltsevo cauldron had closed! There is exfiltration by small groups. Somebody is covering the withdrawal and holding positions, gradually abandoning them and withdrawing. We have lost the police HQ and the rail station in the morning. We lost 1/3 of our equipment at Ilovaysk. We’ll lose 1/5th of all equipment, abandoning it because people are more valuable, and there will be nothing to fight with, as always. All withdrawing groups are falling into ambushes and are losing men and equipment. The ambushes are growing stronger and more fortified with every hour, and the percentage of people making it out of the cauldron is dropping. They won’t say this on TV. Everything is great there. Pete [Poroshenko] outplayed everyone, no need for martial law, Europe is concerned, etc.”

Debaltsevo Update, morning 2/17
“The separatists [sic] fired from all kinds of weapons, from mortars to SP howitzers and Uragan rocket launchers. Our guys held their positions to the last. We had no communications with them. They started to come out of the city at night, in a column of trucks and APCs. There were many wounded in the column. Our intelligence was able to find a relatively save path out. Our guys broke into groups. ‘McCloud’s’ group went second. Tolya was behind them. They fell into an ambush. Lost lots of equipment, but managed to break out. But that corridor is now closed.”
Source http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/its-second-ilovaysk-ukrainian-reactions.html
 
 
 
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 03:31 pm (UTC)
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Edited at 2015-02-18 09:43 pm (UTC)
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 04:30 pm (UTC)
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clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 04:39 pm (UTC)
Ukrainian troops surrender by the hundreds
2/17/2015 Novorossia Militia Update
Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
"Ukrainian punitive troops are surrendering in large numbers. Journalists have filmed the surrender of one of the punitive units in the Debaltsevo cauldron. More than 70 men laid down their arms to save their lives and surrendered to LPR People’s Militia. All punitive troops who lay down their arms and cease resistance will receive hot food and warm clothing, as well as medical aid if they are wounded. The main reward for their conscience and their refusal to continue the war is that their lives will be spared.”
Video of the surrender of the 70-strong Ukrainian unit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTBGJaRqkU0

Source http://fortruss.blogspot.be/2015/02/ukrainian-troops-surrender-by-hundreds.html
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 05:15 pm (UTC)
Ukrainian soldiers ordered to break out "on their own"
Fortruss:
The Ukrainian military is attempting to break through the Debaltsevo Cauldron
2/17/2015 Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
Fighting around Debaltsevo escalated during the second half of the day, according to DPR. “The situation has grown more complex. The level of shelling from the outside of the cauldron has increased. UAF moved against Logvinovo to break a corridor into Debaltsevo,” DPR Ministry of Defense representative Eduard Basurin announced on Tuesday.
He added that DPR forces do not respond to provocations but resist enemy offensive actions. According to Basurin, the militia had established contact with the Ukrainian military and are holding the first meeting of the Joint Control and Coordination Center.
Apart from that, the mothers of Ukrainian soldiers surrounded in Debaltsevo say that troops there received orders to abandon their defensive positions and equipment and attempt to exit the encirclement in small groups. They say command and control has been completely lost, which means the soldiers are on their own. This became known to several mothers who established telephone contact with their sons. On February 17th the relatives of the soldiers are holding a spontaneous meeting at the Ministry of Defense in Kiev.

J.Hawk’s Comment:
So it’s clear that the Debaltsevo cauldron is crumbling, it’s only a question of how many Ukrainian soldiers will manage to exit it. Some no doubt will, but others will become prisoners--there are reports that some 300 junta troops surrendered in Debaltsevo alone so far. But whatever equipment they brought with them to Debaltsevo is going to fall into the hands of Novorossia’s army.
These were the best units the Ukrainian army had. Let’s not forget the “fourth wave of mobilization” had only just begun, so the forces at Debaltsevo were the remnants of the regular, pre-civil war Ukrainian military or the survivors of the campaigns of 2014. For all the problems with the most recent wave of mobilization, the Kiev junta can count on a trickle of replacements. But the heavy equipment is for all intents and purposes irreplaceable. Once these tanks, BMPs, artillery are gone, they are gone for good, and it would take a long time to bring the Ukrainian
military back to the state it was in only two months ago.</i>
http://fortruss.blogspot.be/2015/02/ukrainian-soldiers-ordered-to-break-out.html
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 05:44 pm (UTC)
Kiev next?
What is to stop the separatists from taking the capital and creating a reunited Ukraine?
They could tell the IMF that they were financing a civil war and to whistle for their investment. Monsanto should be brought to trial alongside the IMF for war-profiteering and the US - EU - NATO (UK too if it helped beyond cheer-leading the neo nazis) for funding and arming one side in a civil war.
Reparations for damage? $500 bil would seem about right.
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Nice try. Newsweek claims #Ukraine troops overrun b/c they were trying to "honor ceasefire" & wouldn't shoot back. lol. #Ukraine #NATO

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EU Plays “Good Cop/Bad Cop” With #Russia Over #Ukraine Deal http://journal-neo.org/2015/02/17/eu-plays-good-cop-with-russia-over-ukraine-deal/ … Minsk accord DOA. #NATO #Kiev
#Italy claims #ISIS to merge w/#Libya groups, but was a reality even BEFORE #NATO's proxy war. http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/11/libyan-rebels-are-now-isis.html

MRZine retweeted
Issa ‏@issa_kobani Feb 15
This is the moderate/partners the coalition will support in syria. And Turkey will support also. It has already begun

Issa ‏@issa_kobani Feb 15
It is very simple: Turkey want two things: 1-Put the Sunni in power instead of Assad, 2- To destroy the Kurdish democratic rojava cantons
David Feeney ‏@Feeney4Batman
US & Turkey reach agreement to host training of Syrian Rebels http://goo.gl/Und0dd @BBCWorld #Syria #FSA @ASPI_org
Andréa Schmidt ‏@whatescapes
US-Turkey deal to train FSA - NTV: aim for Turkey, + Qatar & Saudi Arabia, to train as many as 15,000 men in 3 years http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/ankara-close-deal-train-fsa-turkey-150217181531857.html

Al Fatah original
This is a very interesting article. I highly recommend it to my readers and listeners. Not everything is as it... http://fb.me/1wKMmGSWQ
[about the beheadings]

WebsterGTarpley retweeted
Citizen of EU ‏@wavetossed Feb 12
#Ukraine's so-called military command in #Debaltsevo cauldron disintegrates as officers flee. http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/115999.html

Press TV
US media behind ‘worsening’ Islamophobia: Raya Shokatfard http://ptv.io/1oYu #MuslimLivesMatter
West supplying Kiev with arms: Putin http://ptv.io/1oYn
Canada imposes more bans on Russia over Ukrainian crisis http://ptv.io/1oYj
Republican senators urge Obama not to negotiate with Putin over Ukraine http://ptv.io/1oZ9
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 08:27 pm (UTC)
Re: Tweetz
Press TV
US media behind ‘worsening’ Islamophobia: Raya Shokatfard http://ptv.io/1oYu #MuslimLivesMatter
West supplying Kiev with arms: Putin http://ptv.io/1oYn
Canada imposes more bans on Russia over Ukrainian crisis http://ptv.io/1oYj
Republican senators urge Obama not to negotiate with Putin over Ukraine http://ptv.io/1oZ9

@breakingnewssy
#Hasaka: #Syrian_Arab_Army targets locations of “IS” in the villages of Majdool, al-Haweez and al-Shamlan.
#Aleppo: A military leader of a battalion loyal to Ahrar al-Sham movement was killed in clashes with #Syrian_Arab_Army.
Republican senators urge Obama not to negotiate with Putin over Ukraine http://ptv.io/1oZ9
#Italy spreads about 5,000 additional soldiers to protect the country from terrorist attacks

Steiner retweeted
cy80s ‏@cy80s
MTT @Maszazaprasza Pro-Ukrainian volunteer in #Artemivsk (controlled by Ukraine forces): "80% of the people here support the separatists"

RT
#Ukraine forces surrender in Debaltsevo, Donetsk officials say; pro-Kiev commander also reports pull-out. http://RT.com
RT ‏@RT_com
Poland complicit in #ciabounce torture program - European court confirms http://on.rt.com/p3dk81
Number of Afghan civilians killed, wounded jumps 22% in 2014 - @UN http://on.rt.com/pxtva9
URGENT: Swiss police raid #HSBC Geneva office in money laundering probe http://on.rt.com/fwlclz
#POROSHENKO: 80% of govt forces have already withdrawn from #Debaltsevo, 2 more columns expected to leave http://on.rt.com/sr7qug

Gabrielle Tree, PhD retweeted
rabble.ca ‏@rabbleca Feb 4
Harper's anti-terrorism act presents threats to freedom of speech, and extends CSIS powers beyond simple surveillance http://buff.ly/1zyMa9e
16 interesting facts about the assassination of #JFK: http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/20557-16-mind-blowing-facts-about-who-really-killed-jfk#nwo #zionism #israel #mossad #LBJ #coup #dimona #vietnam #CIA

Terrill Tailfeathers ‏@Terrilltf

Elizabeth May on Harper's Police State Law http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/02/09/Harper-Police-State-Law/

Révolutions Info
Aleppo battles kill scores on both sides - Syria monitor: http://tmsnrt.rs/17RyGMZ #WorldrEvolution
(Anonymous) on February 18th, 2015 08:44 pm (UTC)
Russia shelled Ukrainians from within its own territory, says study
"Russia has repeatedly denied the involvement of its troops in eastern Ukraine, insisting the war against government forces there is being fought by local insurgents. Vladimir Putin has described them as “volunteers”. “We’re not attacking anyone; we’re not warmongers,” he declared in December.


The families of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine have been put under pressure not to talk publicly about it, and have reportedly been threatened with a withdrawal of state death benefits if they do, but some have begun to speak out".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/17/russia-shelled-ukrainians-from-within-its-own-territory-says-study?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=%2ASituation%20Report&utm_campaign=Sit%20Rep%20February%2018%202015
clothcapclothcap on February 19th, 2015 11:25 pm (UTC)
Re: Russia shelled Ukrainians from within its own territory, says study
The Cameron regime used UK volunteers in Libya, military personnel that were willing were given leave of absence and fought as mercenaries. They were shipped in via Malta in plain clothes.
There is a precedent and the zio Cameron's has no beef unless he wants his active role in the destruction of Libya out in the open, as I'm sure the ruskies have plenty to tell.

WRT ruskies shelling ukies, there are a number of occasions that ukies have fired into Russia. If ruskies did respond then it was likely in retaliation. As Israel has fired on Syrian military allegedly in retaliation, Turkey too, I can see no reason to criticise Russia without criticising Israel. And Turkey.
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 09:36 pm (UTC)
Tweetz from around 1500 UTC
Net News Global retweeted
Alex Bukovsky ‏@BungeeWedgie
The author of @euromaidan promised to run through Kiev naked, holding a #Russia n flag, if Debaltsevo falls.
rui borges ‏@homo_viator
“Honour and dignity”: DPR commander tells #Ukraine POWs 'no one will harm you'. #Debaltsevo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUR4yQ8doNo&feature=youtu.be
UK media demonizing Russia as ‘guilty’ of daring to resist US Empire http://rt.com/op-edge/233483-uk-media-demonize-russia/
A Blow to Ankara: Syrian Army Makes Advances in Aleppo Offensive http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/blow-ankara-syrian-army-makes-advances-aleppo-offensive

Chris ☭ Sedlmair ‏@Chris_Sedlmair
Ukrainian Junta Chief Asks Washington For (More) Military Assistance http://ln.is/wordpress.com/0LNNg
Ukraine Approves NATO Cooperation Program, New “Berlin Wall” http://ln.is/wordpress.com/BlNce
Syria News 18/2/2015, Army targets terrorists killing dozens mostly foreigners http://ln.is/www.youtube.com/vTBhg
Gray Cardinal retweeted
alex thomson ‏@alextomo
12 sudden explosions heard in c Donetsk
Tore ‏@potifar66
Libya crisis not our fault: We only conducted 20.000 humanitarian air raids to protect the civilians #Nato http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150218/1018430440.html

Scott Horton retweeted
Eric Margolis ‏@ericmargolis 5h5 hours ago
ISIS hysteria spreads as UK papers claims it will take over Libya, then invade West Europe. Egypt uses ISIS in plan to grab Libya oil
Jack Jenkins ‏@jackmjenkins
I asked a couple of Islam scholars their thoughts about The Atlantic's new ISIS article. They were not impressed: http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/02/18/3624121/atlantic-gets-dangerously-wrong-isis-islam/
Adam Serwer ‏@AdamSerwer
The US military brought a Chicago cop known for torturing suspects to Gitmo to torture some more http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/18/american-police-brutality-chicago-guantanamo … via @attackerman

Balkan news ‏@NewsBalkan
#NATO Sec-Gen Stoltenberg claimed in Riga that he doesn't believe that NATO's bombing of #Libya led to the current crisis in the country
Cameron: UK businesses should support econ.sanctions against Russia despite "short-term pain",but warned they could be extended for many yrs
Cameron on Russia sanctions: "it's the right answer for us as a country that wants to have rules around the world that people obey"

Steiner retweeted
Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov
#FLASH - #NAF takes control of key strategic height Mogila Ostraya, a legendary location of the Patriotic War struggle against #Nazi Germany
Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov
#DEBALTSEVO Cauldron - #NAF was able to preserve its most valuable asset - the lives of its soldiers, and wholesale massacre was avoided.
Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov
#DEBALTSEVO Cauldron - #NAF reports taking control of the settlement of #Chernukhino.
#NAF saying #Ukraine volunteer battalions have executed civilians during #Debaltsevo retreat https://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_47395%2Fae5ee56a3e7cf10173nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aThTIceziY0
AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B
Retreat had a bit of everything...soldiers walking 15KM on foot, soldiers falling from vehicles, vehicles crashing...perfectly organized :))

Syrian Patriot retweeted
Peto Lucem ‏@PetoLucem
NEW MAP UPDATE (February 18): The encirclement of #Aleppo. #Nubbol #Zahraa #Syria #SAA #Hezbollah #FSA #Nusra
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-I6iDCCQAAO8Lg.jpg

Press TV
India to sign major weapons deal with Israel http://ptv.io/1oZL
300 Boko Haram members killed http://ptv.io/1oZR
Scotland declares online 'independence' from Britain: old domain name .gov.uk is now changed to .scot

RT
IMF aid package pushes #Ukraine gas prices up 280% http://on.rt.com/4y8rxq
British ‘super-prison’ plans questioned by watchdog over violence, riot risks http://on.rt.com/mm6s10
RT UK ‏@RTUKnews
Fight against #ISIS ‘must be led by Iraqis’ – UK ambassador http://on.rt.com/6w5wzu

Activist Post ‏@ActivistPost
Shock Video! Gov. Caught Lying About Vaccine Dangers: http://youtu.be/k9XRbjOQDvY
Western Media Blames Separatists For Ceasefire Violation, Ignores Role of Kiev Fascists http://po.st/OD60tv
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 09:36 pm (UTC)
Re: Tweetz from around 1500 UTC
Partisangirl
Former NATO General Wesley Clark "our friends and allies funded #ISIS to destroy Hezbollah" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHLqaSZPe98#t=28

Net News Global
"The morgue in #Artemovsk is full with corpses of dead Ukrainian soldiers." http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_47390%2F20b3a1d2d7dd70124a
Occupants in #Debaltsevo change into civilian clothes, trying to avoid captivity. #NAF continues to sweep #Debaltseve http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_47392%2F4d4d64a3d67b2a7510
18.02.15 A. Olkhin by Phone: During the retreat of the security forces of radical groups kill civilians #Debaltsevo https://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_47395%2Fae5ee56a3e7cf10173

@breakingnewssy 4h
#Damascus_countryside: Mohammad Ali Allaham, commander of Nosor Badr militia was killed in Al-Zabadani.

Superstes retweeted
@Syricide
@rsherlock Why would #ISIS go long way round & not through #Turkey? Uncomfortable question. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11418966/Islamic-State-planning-to-use-Libya-as-gateway-to-Europe.html
TASS ‏@tassagency_en
Militia leader not sure if unrecognized Luhansk republic will remain part of "new Ukraine" http://tass.ru/en/world/778404
Novorossiya News ‏@AltairSound
Please remember the people in Debaltsevo, the elderly, children, women, men murdered by Ukrainian army in their homes
luci Frank ‏@falluja05
A MUST SEE - #UKRAINIAN GENERAL SPEAKS OUT ABOUT COUP in HIS COUNTRY #UKRAINE
Ukrainian General reveals the Zionist control of Ukraine
Subtitles
Recommende [Yatsenuk, Pinchuk heads of the masonic lodges]

electra ‏@electradiffusa
Forget hacking... IA accuses Russia of manipulating the weather http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-17/forget-hacking-cia-accuses-russia-manipulating-worlds-weather
The Mass Deception ‏@MassDeception1
Obama to Give Jihadists the Ability to Order US Airstrikes http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-to-give-isis-ability-to-order-airstrikes.html

green heart ‏@br_green_heart
#911_Attack was #Zionist_Coup_dEtat to seize power in #US & launch a #Permanent_War on #Islam on behalf of #Israel - http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/02/17/398032/911-attacks-was-Zionist-coup-detat

Steiner ‏@Steiner1776
#DEBALTSEVO - #Ukraine #KievRus Battalion dep. commander confirms city abandoned & controlled by #NAF via @gbazov https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1548477408750097
green heart ‏@br_green_heart
#Washington seeks to torpedo #Ceasefire_Deal in #Ukraine : James Jatras - http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/02/18/398148/US-seeks-to-torpedo-Ukraine-truce

Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov
#DEBALTSEVO - #KievRus Battalion dep. commander: "NO ORDER from #Ukraine command to retreat, NO PLANNED OPERATION." Breakout - disaster.

Scott Horton retweeted
Joshua Landis ‏@joshua_landis
"Ambassador Robert Ford no longer backs arming Syrian rebels." Pointed article by @HannahAllam http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2015/02/18/257024/once-a-top-booster-ex-us-envoy.html

green heart ‏@br_green_heart
#No_Ceasefire in #Ukraine unless #Imperial_Zionist #US stops arming #Kiev : Analyst - http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/02/18/398154/US-support-for-Kiev-ends-ceasefire
Max Igan : #US , #Israel desperately seek to wage more #Wars in #Mideast - http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/02/18/398155/US-Israel-favor-more-Mideast-wars
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 09:52 pm (UTC)
Obama to Give Jihadists the Ability to Order Airstrikes
"Rebels" who pledged allegiance to ISIS to control American bombers in Syria
By Mikael Thalen Infowars.com February 18
The Obama administration is preparing to equip the so-called “moderate” Syrian rebels with the ability to order US air strikes despite the group’s admitted allegiance to the Islamic State.
Members of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) will be provided with radios to call in strikes from American B-1B bombers as well as pickup trucks with mounted machine guns as the president puts the final touches on plans to train as many as 3,000 rebels in Jordan and Turkey by the end of 2015.
“Negotiations have been concluded and an agreement text will be signed with the US regarding the training of the Free Syrian Army in the coming period,” said Turkish Foreign Ministry Spokesman Tanju Bilgic.
The planes will reportedly use similar munitions to those seen in Afghanistan, targeting anything from small vehicles to tanks with 500 and 2,000-pound guided bombs.
Aside from the Toyota Hi-Lux trucks, multiple groups of rebels will also be given mortars and possibly antitank weapons as well.
A senior military official speaking with the Wall Street Journal stated that the decision would likely emulate recent bombing campaigns against the Islamic State in Iraq.
“The way we envision it, it would be very similar to Kobani,” the source said.
Ludicrously refuting previous statements by claiming not to be at war with the Syrian government, U.S. officials alleged that air strikes would likely not be ordered against the Syrian army.
Despite the Obama administration’s claims, countless intelligence and military officials have stated that the “moderate” rebels are essentially non-existent, with well over 90 percent being with terrorist groups or aligned in ideology.
Just last September, a commander with the FSA admitted to fighting alongside several terrorist organizations in the region including the Islamic State.
“We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in… Qalamoun,” Bassel Idriss, commander of an FSA-run rebel brigade, said. “Let’s face it: The Nusra Front is the biggest power present right now in Qalamoun and we as FSA would collaborate on any mission they launch as long as it coincides with our values.”
Jamal Maarouf, the leader of the Syrian Revolutionary Front (SRF), also told reporters last April that his fighters regularly worked with Al Qaeda and Al-Nusra as well.
During the same time period it was reported that “several factions within the FSA, including Ahl Al Athar, Ibin al-Qa’im,” decided to hand their weapons over to the Islamic State before pledging their allegiance to the group.
An Islamic State fighter speaking with Al-Jazeera in 2013 revealed that the FSA regularly sold its weapons to them shortly after they would receive shipments from the U.S.
“We are buying weapons from the FSA,” Abu Atheer said. “We bought 200 anti-aircraft missiles and Koncourse anti tank weapons. We have good relations with our brothers in the FSA.”
Obama’s rebels and the Islamic State even went as far as to sign a non-aggression pact with one another in order to rally against the Assad government in late 2014.
In fact, with thousands of rebels openly defecting and joining ranks with the Islamic State, President Obama was forced to brazenly repeal sections of U.S. law that banned the arming of known terrorist groups in order to keep weapons flowing.
Obama’s actions spurred a major backlash within the military at the end of 2013, resulting in numerous U.S. troops taking to social media to post photos of themselves holding up signs stating that they would not fight on the same side as terrorists in Syria.
Texas Senator Ted Cruz presciently warned in 2013 that President Obama was quickly turning the United States into Al Qaeda’s air force as the situation in Syria continued to intensify.
“We should be focused on defending the United States of America,” Cruz said. “That’s why young men and women sign up to join the military, not to, as you know, serve as Al Qaeda’s air force.”



http://www.infowars.com/obama-to-give-isis-ability-to-order-airstrikes/
clothcapclothcap on February 18th, 2015 10:37 pm (UTC)
Former Breitbart Reporter Receiving Death Threats Over Revealing Obama’s ‘Fake’ Past
clothcapclothcap on February 19th, 2015 12:53 am (UTC)
Tweetz
green heart ‏@br_green_heart
#Syrian_Army , #Hezbollah_Fighters reach #Aleppo ’s #Besieged_Villages - http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/02/18/398129/Syria-army-closing-in-on-Aleppo

electra retweeted
Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov
#MINSK2 - According to DPR's #Purgin, six columns of @OSCE observers have entered the territory of #DPR. #NOVOROSSIYA #UKRAINE
BULLSHIT ! Shameless NATO Secretary-General Tries to Pass the Buck Over Libya Crisis: hopefully nobody believes him http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150218/1018430440.html
Oliver Carroll ‏@olliecarroll
Poroshenko has talked of no losses during withdrawal. This is clearly not the case. All soldiers I talked to reported losses, "hundreds" POW
Ukrainian squad surrendered at Debaltsevo http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.pt/2015/02/uaf-squad-surrenders-at-debaltsevo.html?m=1
Mark Sleboda ‏@MarkSleboda1
Kiev regime @Poroshenko's increasingly shrill denials of #Debaltsevo cauldron and decimation have moved from propaganda to clinical insanity

sormiou ‏@sormiou12
New video shows US Chinook helicopter dropping 2 boxes of weapons for #ISIL - http://youtu.be/NC0J5nFjysU via @PressTV #Iraq #Syria #Lebanon

Steiner ‏@Steiner1776
#NAF Basurin: At #Debaltsevo boiler 2-3 thousand enemies remain http://dan-news.info/defence/v-debalcevskom-kotle-ostalos-2-3-tysyachi-chelovek-basurin.html#Ukraine
AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B
25th Bat. say: Debaltseve abandoned. No order or plan 2 retreat issued. Troops abandoned, remaining forces wandering around in small groups.
#Ukraine regime T-64 BV captured by #NAF in #Debaltsevo via @NovorossiaNews
Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov
@kartegena #Azov is currently smashing their heads against #NAF defences in #Shirokino. #Donbass is scattered across vast area & in poor +

Activist Post ‏@ActivistPost
It's true that the people who run the terrorists hate your freedom.
Vaccine Uptake Reaches All-Time Lows, Policy Shifts To Mandatory Enforcement and Criminalization for Refusal http://www.naturalblaze.com/2015/02/vaccine-uptake-reaches-all-time-lows.html
NATO/UN Desperately Seek Ceasefire To Save ISIS After Syrian Army Encircles Aleppo http://po.st/mmqvN9
zerohedge ‏@zerohedge
Explosion at Exxon Refinery In Southern California - Live Feed http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-18/explosion-exxon-refinery-southern-california-live-feed

Superstes ‏@LuminaSpargo
@Net_News_Global Go #NAF all the way. No #terrorist should escape from #Devabaltsevo. Particularly #NATO #terrorists and #nazis. #Antifa

Cynthia McKinney ‏@cynthiamckinney
I talked about Chicago's infamous "Area 2" on the Floor of the House when I was in Congress. Now look: Torturer... http://fb.me/1IxlnZvcW

Net News Global
LifeNews report from #Chernukhino (near #Debaltsevo) which was liberated today from #Ukies using ppl as human shields http://youtu.be/PuALynAW8QQ
#DPR: In the morning of 18th Februar 153 soldiers of #Ukraine, among them 12 officers, surrendered in #Debaltsevo http://lifenews.ru/news/150099

Comrade Misanthrope ‏@Antiwar2
Antiwar Blog: http://Antiwar.com ’s Eric Garris on Fox Radio News: ‘We Will See An ISIS/al-Qaeda Merger’ http://bit.ly/1AFNfzN
[Netan to perform the ceremony?]
@SteveAHorn
Pentagon Played @LesleyRStahl About @DARPA Like a Fiddle http://thenation.com/blog/198057-how-does-pentagon-keep-fooling-reporters-about-its-tech-research-agency … @KGosztola @newsvandal @lhfang @scotthortonshow @antiwar2

Press TV ‏@PressTV
‘No foreign aid behind Bahrain uprising’ http://ptv.io/1oZh
‘No truce unless US stops arming Kiev’: Analyst http://ptv.io/1oZs
clothcapclothcap on February 19th, 2015 12:54 am (UTC)
Re: Tweetzz
Scott Horton retweeted
Daniel Larison ‏@DanielLarison
[Jeb] Bush is restating the extremely dumb "we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here" argument

Steiner retweeted
Сапёр Водичка ‏@ivanvitjaz
@Steiner1776 @dgartzos @gbazov Captured nazi from battalion A.z.o.v shows his tattoos.He said 80% A.z.o v is like him
Sergey Bobkov ‏@sbobkov
#NAF claim to have complete control over #Debaltsevo, with some small arms fire outside of the city. #ATO
Graham Phillips ‏@GrahamWP_UK
Bus of Ukrainian POWS, mass surrender at #Debaltsevo, and I saw over 80 myself taken into captivity - #Ukrainewar

Robina Creaser retweeted
David Icke ‏@davidicke
BBC 'reporter' near-miss with Ukrainian shell while accusing Rebels of doing the shelling: http://bit.ly/1yXiOOl

Balkan news retweeted
the Lemniscat ‏@theLemniscat
#NAF: "Our scouts have found whole streets where all the people in the houses have been shot" #Debaltsevo #Ukraine https://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_47395%2Fae5ee56a3e7cf10173n

Enrique Ferro ‏@HarryFerro
Maidan murders: 1 year on, still no justice over Kiev massacre | @scoopit http://sco.lt/5D97BJ
Now a brunette! Crimean prosecutor Poklonskaya parades new haircut & color | @scoopit http://sco.lt/5ItUZ7
Russia steps up oil supplies to Asia | @scoopit http://sco.lt/6ymP7h

Robina Creaser retweeted
Global Research ‏@CRG_CRM
Michel Chossudovsky's new book now available for order: The Globalization of War, America’s Long War against Humanity http://shar.es/1WWbj6

MRZine retweeted
‏@telesurenglish Feb 16
“What is Inexcusable is Venezuela's Political independence” by John Pilger http://tlsur.net/1DhIbly
John Pilger ‏@johnpilger
A reformist social democracy with a capitalist base - such as Venezuela - is not excused by the rulers of the world. http://bit.ly/1vBUPnB

Libya retweeted
Werfally ‏@MrProudLibyan
#Feb17 Ultimate proof that the #Libya|n police was never ordered to shoot at protesters in Feb. 2011 : http://youtu.be/4v8SaYRhYHY
Chris Stephen ‏@reportingLibya
#Libya BREAKING: Egypt drops call for Libya intervention, keeps request to end arms embargo at UNSC tonight (AFP) http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-drops-un-bid-libya-military-intervention-ministry-180622925.html;_ylt=AwrBEiEb2eRUwX0A9rPQtDMD

RT
US attacks on Muslims abroad is not a war on Islam - Obama http://on.rt.com/xnncts

Viedoklis retweeted
StopPutinRegime ‏@StopPutinRegime
Proof #russia #putin regime invaded #Ukraine
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-Jjj4sIcAAN-Jx.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-Jj0UVIMAAIM4L.png
Mike Collier ‏@mikskoljers
Okay, who's wants to go down in history as world's biggest idiot by suggesting another meeting in Minsk?

Press TV
Sara Flounders: US policy regarding ISIL to play havoc with Mideast stability http://ptv.io/1oa5 #ISIS

Balkan news ‏@NewsBalkan
#Ukraine's Presidential advisor Biryukov: Right now it’s impossible, we don’t have resources to win, reach border & fully liberate Donbass
#Hungary: Orban stepped up his criticism of his EU allies for their policy of seeking to isolate #Russia,naming D.Tusk as one of its backers
@NewsBalkan
Orban flagged potential conflict with EU over #Hungary's plan to run its energy sector on nonprofit basis,contradict. bloc's energy policy

Révolutions Info ‏@revolution_info
UN adopts Russian-drafted resolution on Ukraine crisis - euronews: Hindustan TimesUN adopts Russian-d... http://bit.ly/19xqRMS #ukraine

Club des Cordeliers ‏@cordeliers
Video: Syrian people reject US interference in Venezuela http://multimedia.telesurtv.net/v/syrian-people-reject-us-interference-in-venezuela/#.VOTJyp7aHjo.twitter

[Evidence Reveals Canada, UK Involvement in Venezuela Coup Plot
By Telesur
Evidence presented on Venezuelan TV showed a video of the coup plotters, as well as the 10-year U.S. visa granted to one of the accused.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40990.htm

The War on Venezuela’s Democracy: A Thwarted Coup Attempt
By Peter Koenig
This is a typical case of neoliberal Washington paid thugs and mercenaries false-flagging ‘undesired’ governments into chaos, for ‘regime change’ - and then being taken over by the US.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40995.htm ]

Re: Tweetzzz - clothcap on February 19th, 2015 12:55 am (UTC) (Expand)
(Anonymous) on February 19th, 2015 06:28 am (UTC)
More craziness from powerful and dangerous Crispies.
"According to French President Chirac, Bush told him that the Iraq war was needed to bring on the apocalypse:

In Genesis and Ezekiel Gog and Magog are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come out of the north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of Revelation took up the Old Testament prophesy:

“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”

Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:

“This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins”…"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/millions-of-evangelical-christians-want-to-start-world-war-iii-to-speed-up-the-second-coming/29362

"Just when you thought it couldn't get crazier, a well-sourced story claims Bush invaded Iraq because of Bible prophecies"

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush
clothcapclothcap on February 19th, 2015 11:33 pm (UTC)
Re: More craziness from powerful and dangerous Crispies.
I read the same on Global Research. Bush is a freemason (illuminati adherent) and practices satanism as evidenced in what's-its-name grove vids. About as far as you can get from being a good chrispie. I doubt he believes anything beyond the power of money, the usability of the trust of the gullible and self interest.
clothcapclothcap on February 19th, 2015 11:13 am (UTC)
Some ICS headlines from 18 Feb
UK Supplies Saxon APCs to Ukraine...Which Promptly Sells Them!: After a lot of huffing and puffing by the "Arms for Ukraine Now!" neocons like General Sir Richard "Helmand" Dannatt over the weekend ridiculing Britain for only supplying Saxon Armoured Vehicles, a Kiev-based company is already offering them for sale!
http://tinyurl.com/mxctjem
Questions in the House please. Why is Cameron's regime breaking international law in providing military aid to one side in a national conflict, the neo nazi Ukraine junta, thereby aiding the suppression of and murder of civilians that have exercised their democratic right to separation from the junta installed by a W. arranged coup?
Why is there no complaint about the IMF making the sale of Ukraine land to Monsanto a condition of the IMF lending currency?

Ukraine approves NATO cooperation: The Ukrainian Cabinet has approved a 2015 program for cooperation with NATO, Deputy Prime Minister Hennadiy Zubko has told reporters.
http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/251437.html

Poroshenko asking for military assistance from Washington: Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko told U.S. Vice President Joe Biden on phone that militants are not observing the ceasefire in Donbas, which is stipulated by Minsk agreements, the Ukrainian press service said.
http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/251250.html

ISIS plans to invade Europe through Libya – report: The plans, analyzed by anti-terrorism British think tank Quilliam, outline a strategy to illegally ferry fighters across the sea from Libya into southern Europe, into ports such as Italy’s southernmost island of Lampedusa, less than 300 miles (483km) away.
http://rt.com/news/233335-isis-islamic-libya-europe/

Greece gets lifeline as ECB agrees €3.3bn extra emergency funds: Total funding on offer now €68.3bn as Greek banks come close to using €65bn of liquidity funds granted by European Central Bank
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/18/greece-lifeline-ecb-agrees-extra-emergency-funds

No Time for Games in Europe: Greek Finance Minister
By Yanis Varoufakis
We are also determined not to be treated as a debt colony that should suffer what it must.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41023.htm
[Colony of debt slaves... The IMF is an WMD, it is a formula based op, faux civil dispute then offer loans to buy weapons and now land, later for rebuilding probably with Halliburton employment as a condition shows one aspect part of the rape. Do hydrocarbons and minerals also form part of the conditions?]

Sharp rise in Afghan civilian casualties: UN: The number of civilians killed and wounded in Afghanistan jumped 22 percent in 2014. The United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan attributed the rise to an intensification in ground fighting, resulting in a total of 10,548 civilian casualties last year, compared with the 2013 figure of 8,637.
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/26336872/civilian-casualties-in-afghanistan-rose-22-in-2014-un/

Argentina Tells US, Israel to Stay out of Its Affairs: "I can go to any country in the world, including those who launch missiles and have secret prisons, stand in front of them and say that here reigns the law and no Argentine can be detained except by a judge and if there is in effect the constitutional guarantees," Fernandez said.
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Argentina-Tells-US-Israel-to-Stay-out-of-Its-Affairs-20150218-0033.html

Why Can’t Media Describe Chapel Hill Murders As Terrorism?
By Rania Khalek
Deah Barakat’s sister, Suzanne, revealed that police had yet to interview her family members, adding that it was “insulting, insensitive and outrageous” to blame the triple homicide on a parking dispute, especially since “on the day of the murders, the parking spot that was ‘disputed’ had no car in it.”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41024.htm

Edited at 2015-02-19 03:17 pm (UTC)
clothcapclothcap on February 19th, 2015 03:15 pm (UTC)
Ukrainian President Poroshenko is US puppet: Analyst
Ukrainian President Poroshenko is US puppet: Analyst
An American political commentator has described Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko as a puppet of the left-wing American Zionist-controlled political infrastructure.
Scott Rickard also called Vice President Joe Biden the kingpin of Zionist traitors in the United States after he blamed Russia for violating the Minsk peace agreement that was signed over the crisis in Ukraine.
The comment "about the US blaming Russia for creating these types of activities and Russian involvement in Ukraine is absurd,” Rickard told Press TV on Wednesday.
“The comments were made by Joe Biden to Poroshenko and Poroshenko obviously is a puppet of the left-wing American Zionist-controlled Zionist-influenced political infrastructure and Joe Biden is the kingpin of these Zionist traitors in the United States,” he added.
On Tuesday, Biden blamed pro-Russian forces in Ukraine for violating the ceasefire which was agreed last week in the Belarus capital, Minsk, to end fighting between Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian forces.
He made the remarks during a phone conversation with Poroshenko, the White House said.
The Minsk Protocol was an agreement to halt the war in the Donbass region of Ukraine, signed on 5 September 2014. By January 2015, however, the Minsk Protocol ceasefire had completely collapsed. A new package of measures meant to stop fighting in the Donbass, called "Minsk II," was agreed to on 12 February 2015.
Despite the new peace plan and promises to pull back heavy weapons, Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian forces have been fighting fierce battles around the city of Debaltseve.
Russia says Kiev and its Western allies have twisted the peace deal.
The Russian Foreign Ministry said that several official representatives of Ukraine and Western countries, “the United States in particular, have essentially expressed solidarity with the opinion of radical nationalists in the Verkhovna Rada (the Ukrainian parliament).”
AGB/AGB
Source http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/02/19/398228/Ukrainian-president-is-US-puppet-